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Jonathan Goeldner
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and I bet you anything, the DCP audio will be 7.1 and Dolby Atmos just to mess with folk who want to see it and hear it both formats (film vs. digital) [Wink]

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Daniel Schulz
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quote: Jonathan Goeldner
and I bet you anything, the DCP audio will be 7.1 and Dolby Atmos just to mess with folk who want to see it and hear it both formats (film vs. digital
DCPs are 5.1. No Atmos, no Auro-3D.

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Michael Coate
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http://www.hollywoodrepor ter.com/news/why-theater-owners-arent-happy-737661?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews&utm_campaign=THR+Breaking+News_now_2014-10-02+13%3A51%3A43_ehayden

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Why Theater Owners Aren't Happy About Christopher Nolan's 'Interstellar' Film Initiative
1:50 PM PST 10/02/2014 by Pamela McClintock

After spending millions to convert their cinemas to digital at Hollywood's behest, theaters are being asked to roll back the clock — that is, if they want early access to Christopher Nolan's Interstellar, starring Matthew McConauhey, Anne Hathaway and Jessica Chastain.

On Wednesday, Paramount and Warner Bros. said theaters still equipped to project 35mm and 70mm film will get Nolan's Interstellar two days early, on Nov. 5, including 41 Imax locations. Many cinemas are bringing in film projectors to play the film, including TCL's Chinese Imax theater in Los Angeles. Some 240 theaters in 77 markets are participating, including 41 Imax locations.

"This devalues what we've done," said Joe Paletta, chief and founder of Spotlight Theatres, a small chain in Georgia that is now all-digital. "I can't afford to get the projectors out of the warehouse for two days, and I don't even have anyone to operate them."

Read more 'Interstellar' Trailer Reveals the Movie's Mission

Nolan, who has a strong relationship with exhibitors, is a fierce advocate of film, and he's got enough clout with studios to make his passion a reality, but theater owners say the Interstellar experiment sends a confusing message. Nearly all of the country's cinemas have been converted to digital as Hollywood studios cease sending film prints. Earlier this year, Paramount became the first studio to stop distributing film, with the caveat that it might send some film prints in certain instances.

Paramount vice chairman Rob Moore said the decision to release Interstellar in film is about encouraging the moviegoing experience, period. In 2011, the studio opened Mission: Impossible — Ghost Protocol five days earlier in Imax to highlight that format. It also generated intense word of mouth (the film went on to become the top-grossing film in the franchise).

"Interstellar plays spectacularly, and we have a filmmaker who loves film, so we wanted to take a moment to showcase film as an important part of our heritage," said Moore, adding that Nolan will host a special community on Google exploring all formats, and not just film.

But Foothills Cinemas president and CEO Byron Berkley, whose company operates four theaters in Texas, agrees with Paletta. "It makes no sense to step back in time," he said.

For smaller exhibitors like Paletta and Berkley, the digital transition was especially daunting from a financial perspective, although the Hollywood studios have helped to defray some of the cost through virtual print fees.

Read more Christopher Nolan Talks 'Interstellar,' Plugs Film Over Digital in Hollywood Reporter Q&A

Nolan shot Interstellar using a combination of 35mm film and 65mm Imax film.

Of those theaters getting Interstellar earlier, 189 locations will play 35mm prints, while 10 will play 70mm prints. The 41 Imax theaters will play enhanced 70mm prints.



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Jonathan Goeldner
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oh thank god, thanks for the confirmation Daniel - Smithsonian Samuel C. Johnson IMAX Theatre here I come!

honestly I don't get why Nolan couldn't have shot the entire film in both 15/70 IMAX... AND 5/70mm film stock to get more of a consistent image quality ... if Paul Thomas Anderson can shoot an entire movie in 5/70, there's no reason why Nolan didn't go the extra mile.

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Connor Wilson
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Coate, thanks for the article. I can see why exhibitors disagree with Nolan's stand on film. They can always show Interstellar in DCP and will still keep many happy.

But in other news, I just bought four tickets for the November 8th 6:45pm show at Ziegfeld. This will be my first 5/70mm presentation I attend since 2 years, 2 months and 15 days prior to the 8th. I'm a bit nervous if the Zig crew would handle it properly, but I'm ready for the 5+-hour trip!

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Jonathan Goeldner
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while supporting 5-perf/70mm presentations is a good thing - I just simply have to see it as it was original photographed from the IMAX cameras, and in turn thrown onto a 6-story tall 4:3 screen... sorry that's how I roll. But I applaud Nolan and Warners for making said print available, now we'll see if Tarantino makes due on his claim that his 2015 movie will get released in 70mm as well.

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Connor Wilson
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Not to worry, I'm also making plans for 15/70 with my uncle, who is a rocket engineer at Orbital, at Udvar-Hazy. He detested Gravity so I'm not sure what he'll think of Interstellar.

And The Master had 35mm scenes for 20% of the movie. I was able to tell the downgrade of quality during a 70mm screening at AFI Silver.

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Steve Guttag
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What a bunch of whiners! So film gets a 2-day lead...TWO WHOLE DAYS!!!! And these days are which two? Wednesday and Thursday in the 1st week of November...that isn't exactly prime-time real estate.

Back in the Blockbuster day of the late 70s/early 80s...we would get 2-week exclusives in our 70mm theatres and that would be during prime time...like Memorial Weekend and summer months.

Just how much hardship are these guys going to be facing because they didn't get that early Wed/Thurs playdate?

As for mixed message...to who? Those that give a damn are already going to pilgrimage to the film theatres. The other 99% are going to go see it at the nearest theatre regardless of how it is shown.

The other thing that others have mentioned that Mr. Nolan doesn't get and probably won't...is that the 35mm presentations stand a good chance of being as crappy as they used to be when film was the standard...have the people that own/maintain/run that equipment somehow improved in the last few years? Now the 70mm shows...they stand to be a bit different because there are so few and those that kept 70mm (or are putting it in) are more likely (not guaranteed) to be able to do it justice...but we'll see.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Steve Guttag
And these days are which two? Wednesday and Thursday in the 1st week of November...that isn't exactly prime-time real estate.
Under normal circumstances that would be true, but this is one of the most anticipated movies of the year and it's getting a ton of "free" publicity for those film dates just because it's "news."

You know darn well that legions of fanboys who MUST see a super-hyped movie such as this as soon as possible will seek out the earliest shows they can (and half of them won't even know if it's on film...they'll think they're watching a DVD, the way they always have).

In other words it isn't an even playing field.

However the nearest "film" venue is over a thousand miles from us as far as I know so I guess we won't suffer!

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Scott Norwood
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In addition to Brad's list above: does anyone remove the optical slit lens when running 70mm in a JJ? I have not operated any JJs since LED readers became standard, but I always felt that the standard slit lens could easily cause film damage with a slightly warped print. (Obviously, this is a nonissue with the newer JJs that feed 70mm around the outside of the optical soundhead).

And it would seem that Norelco AA-IIs would solve most of Brad's non-platter-related issues with running 70mm on JJs.

(Note that my 70mm experience is limited to running mag acetate prints on JJs and some test material on Norelcos. No platters involved, and I have not run 70mm polyester.)

And I agree with Steve that there will be lots of damaged prints at this engagement. This will mostly play in multiplexes, most of which have long since rid themselves of people who know how to handle film properly (if they ever employed such people in the first place). I would bet that most of these places will drag in a manager who has not run film in a few years to handle the prints, a move which is not likely to end well.

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Steve Guttag
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Scott...no...I've never removed nor known of anyone to remove the slit lens...nor could I imagine a situation where the film would touch it. The guide in the R50 keeps the film in front of it. However, if the film is warped and the guide is not machined well, it would be possible to scratch the film on the guide.

Interstellar is a "film" event...those that kept or are willing to put in film for it get a 2-day reward...get over it. It is JUST one movie. If it is THAT big a movie, 2-days out of the run won't mean anything and if it sucks...well it won't mean a damn thing either. If you have film equipment...you get two days worth of audience you otherwise wouldn't have...will that possibly cover the costs of keeping the projectors around...possibly paying someone to run them for the duration...those that are complaining are just a bunch of lallygagers. [Wink]

Personally, I only care about the 5/70mm venues anyway...that is film at its best. Please don't F@#k it up!

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Brad Miller
*If running changeovers, go back to that leader rule. ADD MORE! And whatever you do, don't attach the leader to the takeup reel and spin it until you get to the countdown before you thread. That's the absolute incorrect way to do it. Ensure you have some framelines to thread on at the beginning of the newly-extended leader (even if you have to draw a dozen with a Sharpie over clear leader), thread there and then after you are sure you are comfortable with the threading motor it down to the countdown. The reason so many repertory prints look bad around the reel ends is because people are handling the films too damn close to the first and last frame of action on each reel. (This rule even applies to proper 35mm changeover operation.)
Agreed, and the labs making the prints would make a huge contribution to protect them if it put, say, 50 feet of spacing before the start of the leader, and at the start of that 50 feet, a single lined frame, clearly marked "THREAD IN GATE HERE, THEN ADVANCE TO COUNTDOWN > ".

The problem with adding more leader is this: how many of the houses playing these prints are likely to have hundreds of feet of 70mm spacing sitting around? And even if they're prepared to buy it (unlikely), do any of the major supply houses still sell it?

I'm also hoping that they'll put decent lab cues on the prints and a note in the shipping cases urging projectionists not to add their own. So many prints made from lasered-out DIs towards the end of the mainstream film era did not have any cues on them, so multiple sets were added with office hole punchers, grease pencils, power drills, etc. etc (especially prints of arthouse movies that were more likely to play in changeover houses), which made the reel ends look even worse.

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Andrew Thomas
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I would love to go up to Dallas to catch a screening at SMG, but I went ahead and booked tickets to the Alamo Ritz 8pm screening as I've got several friends in Austin that want to see it in 70mm as well.

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Jason Metcalfe
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I just want to say how happy seeing all of you excited about film again makes me.

Brad - I don't see how it would be possible to thread under the loop stabilizer on the JJ, are you saying the whole loop should be on the right side of the stabilizer? That seems like it would just bring it closer to that payout sprocket arm which is what I thought was another source of those center scratches. We have both the slap guards and the loop stabilizer on our JJs.

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Joe Redifer
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So aside from Brad's theaters, any word on where the people projecting the 5/70 and even 15/70 are coming from? Surely they all have new jobs by now and likely don't have availability to run film again. And plus they'd be out of practice.

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