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Joe Redifer
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I don't think DTS can be described as "state-of-the-art" any more.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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^ but at least DTS adhere's to the original 70mm/6 track mixes that had five front channels on the film's that were mixed and presented as such.

I have yet to see (or hear for that matter) any studio that encodes it's DCP's as such.

2015 will be interesting in that supposedly we will see two 70mm features released as such:'The Hateful Eight' and hopefully a stateside release of Terrence Davie's latest 'Sunset Song'

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Mark Campbell
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So my local 2nd-run neighborhood theatre up here in Seattle has listed Interstellar 35mm opening November 5th in their weekly newsletter. I do not want to shine a bad light on them, they are really struggling and are doing everything to stay open and have been a part of the neighborhood forever. Still 35mm and have a rough plan to turn the twin theaters into an all digital 4-plex but there is no financing plan in place. But the place is in pretty sorry shape: broken seats, curtains torn, bad masking, questionable audio, etc.

I am not sure this is what Christopher Nolan had in mind as a venue. I am happy for them and hope they will do their best to step up the prevention. But I wonder what other scrappy places will be added to the list list.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Jonathan Goeldner
but at least DTS adhere's to the original 70mm/6 track mixes that had five front channels on the film's that were mixed and presented as such
That's only if the DTS player (and movie audio playing on it) is specifically set up to play a 5 stage channel layout. In the 1990s I believe a theater had to install a DTS-6 SV (Special Venue) player in order to deviate from the standard 5.1 channel layout with 3 front stage channels.

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Leo Enticknap
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It can be done without a special DTS player.

We can do it with our 6D (Egyptian) and XD-10 (Aero). At the Egyptian, we have a custom-made switching box to which the 6D's analog output is attached: when the switch is flipped from 5.1 to special venue/5 stage channels mode, it changes the routing of the channels coming out of the player. The player thinks it's playing conventional 5.1, but the channels are actually going to the necessary CP200 inputs for five stage channels. With the Aero XD-10 setup, the CP650 can take care of it as a software preset.

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Steve Guttag
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At the AFI/Silver...DTS 6-track is just a format:

http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/picview.php?id=4786&category=1

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In the event that there was any other "special" formats, we brought the DTS outputs to the patch bays so they could be reassigned as needed.

http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/picview.php?id=4788&category=1

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Ben Wales
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Will be playing in 5/70mm at the Odeon Leicester Square Londonfrom 7th November.

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Scott Norwood
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How does DTS actually record their "format 40" equivalent (Steve's format 53)?

With a 5.1 mix, DTS encodes the subwoofer and surround information on the same channels and then separates them by frequency range on playback. How does this translate to five screen channels? Is DTS somehow capable of reproducing six full-range channels in this configuration?

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Allan Barnes
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70MM real IMAX in DETROIT at the HENRY FORD MUSEUM... I'll drive 2 hours from Canada for it! HEAVEN

http://www.thehenryford.org/imax/index.aspx?gclid=CMjZ7JiHpMECFaY-MgodMlwA7A

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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Do it.

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Amanda Mundin
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So where's the best place to sit at Odeon Leicester Sq?
How big is the screen?

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Leo Enticknap
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In the balcony towards the front, I'd guess, based on the last time I saw a movie there (which admittedly is over a decade ago).

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Steve Guttag
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Yes, DTS is capable of recording all 6-channels. In the older systems, it would be the "SV" version of the player (e.g DTS-6SV). The SV had 6 decoders. The XD10 ships with 8-channels, as I recall and with an option for 16 and the XD20 ships with all 16-channels (I may be off here on the maximum channel quantity...12 versus 16).

Typically, a Todd AO mix will lay out as L, LC, R, RC, R, Surround. Thus one has to be careful to only use that version if they are configured for it...otherwise surround goes to subwoofer and LC/RC go to the surrounds. Even worse, if one is in Todd Ao layout and runs a 5.1 disc...Subwoofer goes to surrounds!

The AFI/Silver runs enough of each type it made sense to put in the infrastructure and format for it to be dial-a-format for 70mm DTS. We did the same thing at the Library of Congress in Culpeper.

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Allan Young
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quote: Amanda Mundin
So where's the best place to sit at Odeon Leicester Sq?
How big is the screen?

The screen isn't nearly big enough for the size of the auditorium unfortunately, and if you take Leo's advice and sit in the front circle you'll be charged a whopping £22.50 for the privilege. I'd suggest the mid stalls area and even there the sightlines aren't ideal.

It's a real shame the wonderful 70mm screen at the Empire across the road is no more.

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Leo Enticknap
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£22.50?! Bugger me with a soldering iron! I last saw a show at the Odeon, Leicester Square in the early '00s, and I think the tickets were £9.something. If that's true, then they have more than doubled in cost in the last decade. Furthermore, the decade in question was one in which Britain has had the lowest inflation since records began (at least, if you believe the records, but I'd be getting off-topic and political if I went there), and one during which most forms of entertainment that are in direct competition with cinema have been getting cheaper in real terms.

You could always visit Los Angeles and see a 70mm double feature from the front row of our balcony for $11. Come for a few, and very soon you'd have recouped the cost of the plane ticket!

Agreed on the screen size in Leicester Square. It's one of very few of the British 1930s picture palaces that weren't twinned or tripled, and so the auditorium was originally designed for a 1.37 screen. To make wider ratios possible, they had to lower the ceiling and raise the stage. Basically, the entire stage area is like a giant letterboxed 4:3 television. The main screen at the Odeon, Wimbledon (which had been tripled: the main screen was the former dress circle/balcony) was like that when I was growing up and seeing films there. It was a wonderful space to be in, but the screen was pretty small when masked to 'scope.

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