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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Allan Young
The screen isn't nearly big enough for the size of the auditorium unfortunately, and if you take Leo's advice and sit in the front circle you'll be charged a whopping £22.50 for the privilege. I'd suggest the mid stalls area and even there the sightlines aren't ideal.
Last time for me must be about 6 years ago, so I don't know if they dramatically changed their interior since then. I've had seats in the "Royal Circle" or whatever they call it once. The distance to the screen isn't optimal from those uber-expensive seats and you're looking down to the screen at quite an angle. It will only increase once you go further back on the balcony. So, I would not spend those extra pounds for some balcony seat. Last time I was there, I went for "stalls" and I liked it much more. You need to look up to the screen, obviously, but I was sitting much closer for the screen.

Sure, such a cinema is much more than just the movie, the whole "entourage" is quite extraordinary. But since you're going for a unique 5/70mm experience, you should get closer to the screen than usual, not further away [Wink] .

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Thomas Hauerslev
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"INTERSTELLAR" will open in Copenhagen (thats in Denmark) Nov 6 in 70MM

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Mark Lensenmayer
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According to the INTERSTELLAR website, the Willow Creek Theatre 12 in Plymouth, MN will be running a 5-70 print.

It's located just off Betty Crocker Drive, and down the street from General Mills Blvd.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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according to Interstellar's website they denote as all three Smithsonian IMAX screens will be showing this, but it looks like it's only National Air and Space's 'Mall' and Udvar Hazy screens showing it - which is too bad, since National History Museum's screen in my opinion is the best of the three.

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Marcel Birgelen
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I guess nobody can answer the question if the 5/70mm Interstellar presentations in the recently remodeled Zoo Palast in Berlin will be in their Original Language or rather the German dubbed version?

You would almost doubt DTS would make custom discs for just a single location, but given the specialty of it all, you never know.

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Carsten Kurz
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I'm sure they will be german dubbed. I mean, that's the whole idea of the DTS disc system. And the only way to actually get these few european 70mm prints financed, showing original US prints with local dubb discs. But if these prints circulate later, there may be chances for european screenings with the US discs as well. Seems that Schauburg at Karlsruhe already secured a screening next year, but don't know wether dubbed or OV, or if that decision has already been made.

Don't know about Copenhagen, they may be more used to OVs there?

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Paul Gordon
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While at the AMIA confrence I talked to a Fotokem lab guy. A total of 12 70mm 5-perf prints were made.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Marcel Birgelen
You would almost doubt DTS would make custom discs for just a single location, but given the specialty of it all, you never know.
They'll be making foreign language dubbed versions of the DTS 5.1 audio for markets that prefer them anyway, and so the cost of burning the odd copy onto discs for 6D playback or XD-10 ingestion would be close to zero, I'd have thought.

On the other hand, the cost of subtitling a 70mm print would probably be not much less than that of the print itself; and that's assuming that laser subtitle burners for 70mm release prints even exist. I don't think I've ever seen a laser subtitled 70mm print (though I do remember once showing an unsubtitled 70mm print of the original Solaris with a lady standing in front of the screen shouting a translation, because the only subtitled print that the programmers could get hold of was 16mm 'scope, which they ruled out as unacceptable). And the cost of subtitling 70mm from a special interneg would be astronomical (excuse the pun).

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Carsten Kurz
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Germans are good in booting, but not in accepting foreign language films. Given the cost, premiere location and booking condition for this 70mm print, even in Berlin it is hard to assume that showing an OV or even subtitled version would make sense economically. It needs to be dubbed to have a chance to draw the necessary attendance. And since the digital versions are dubbed anyway, I don't think it adds much to the print cost if DTS burns another set of CDRs or DVD-Rs with a dubbed version. The bare encoding of another language version is certainly not very expensive nowadays.

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Jim Cassedy
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In regards to a question about getting Intersteller German language disks:
quote: Carsten Kurz
that's the whole idea of the DTS disc system.
I agree, but apparently there's a discrepancy between the idea and the implementation.

I know a theater owner here in San Francisco whose venue is in a location
with a large Asian population. He did good business whenever he played
movies from Hong Kong or Singapore in their original language.

But with American movies- - no so much so.

Many customers, who have limited English skills, inquired why he couldn't
get Asian language dubbed versions of major American films, which they
knew existed because the dubbed versions were playing in foreign cities.

But almost every time he tried to get Cantonese, Mandarin or some other foreign
language DTS disks (which we knew existed) for a major hollywood movie, he was
told by the distributors that "those disks were only licensed for use outside the USA".

Occasionally there was an exception to this rule but about 98% of
the time he could only get the English language soundtrack disks.

One of the reasons he put DTS, instead of Dolby Digital, at that location
was because it was marketed as making it 'easy' to play the same film
in multiple languages. While this was true technically, it wasn't in practicality.

For awhile he was pretty pissed, because he felt he'd been lied to by DTS's
advertising and sales reps. To be fair, although DTS did claim that you could
'PLAY' multiple language disks, they never really said anywhere in their
marketing materials that you could actually GET them.

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Gordon McLeod
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The disks have always been the studios property to license to who they choose and in some cases particularly asia the rights to a film and specifically are with the distrbuter there

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Leo Enticknap
They'll be making foreign language dubbed versions of the DTS 5.1 audio for markets that prefer them anyway, and so the cost of burning the odd copy onto discs for 6D playback or XD-10 ingestion would be close to zero, I'd have thought.
It's not just burning discs off-course, you also need to encode it. Run the necessary quality controls on it, etc. But I forgot about the 35mm release, which will probably also get a DTS/Datasat release and German language discs, so it's probably not just a single copy.

quote: Paul Gordon
While at the AMIA confrence I talked to a Fotokem lab guy. A total of 12 70mm 5-perf prints were made.
USA 70MM 5/70
• CA, Hollywood, ArcLight Cinerama Dome
• CA, Oakland, Renaissance Grand Lake
• GA, Atlanta, CineBistro at Town Brookhaven
• MN, Plymouth, Willow Creek 12
• NY, New York, Bow Tie Ziegfeld
• NY, New York, City Cinemas Cinema 1
• TX, Arlington, Studio Movie Grill
• TX, Austin, Alamo Drafthouse Ritz
• TX, Dallas, Look Cinemas
• TX, Dallas, Studio Movie Grill Royal Lane

INTERNATIONAL 5/70
• Berlin, ZOO Palast
• Copenhagen, Imperial Bio
• London, Odeon Leicester Sq, London
• Milan, Arcadia Cinema

The source.

So, at least two locations have to share a print? [Wink] Or are there other labs involved? Or is this list incorrect?

quote: Carsten Kurz
Germans are good in booting, but not in accepting foreign language films. Given the cost, premiere location and booking condition for this 70mm print, even in Berlin it is hard to assume that showing an OV or even subtitled version would make sense economically.
CineStar is running an entire multiplex in Berlin in "Original". Sure, Berlin is quite a large market with many foreigners. But, there are quite a lot of Germans flocking to Dutch and even Belgian cinemas in the border regions. Somehow I have the feeling the market for "OV" especially in urban areas is grossly underestimated at times. And times are also changing, people now often have the opportunity to choose their language at home, even on digital broadcasts and not just on DVDs and Blu Rays. I still remember those dual language broadcasts abusing stereo on German National TV and even subtitles via "Videotex(t)" (thank the Queen and BBC for that [Wink] ), some early stereo sets couldn't handle it and you were stuck with two languages playing simultaneously.

Still, the only things improved by German dubbing are campy 80s TV series like The A-Team and Knight Rider [Wink] .

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Nice find Marcel [thumbsup] , its too bad that the Varsity in Toronto is not playing the movie in 70mm. Toronto has a long, rich history of 70mm presentations dating back to the 60s.

What I don't see is that many major chains running the film in 70mm, all of the theaters on the list seem to be smaller players.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Marcel Birgelen
So, at least two locations have to share a print?
That list includes two pairs of locations in the same city (NYC and Dallas). If these two pairs of theaters each share a print, that gives you 12 prints needed (I'm surprised that they're shipping as many as four to Europe, though: Warners must be convinced that the grosses in all four of those venues will be extremely strong).

quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
What I don't see is that many major chains running the film in 70mm, all of the theaters on the list seem to be smaller players.
Which is entirely what I'd expect, just as I'd expect to be out of luck if I went to the booze section of my local Walmart and asked if they had a bottle of Chateau Wanquer '79, or the music section of Target looking for Miles Davis on vinyl. 70mm is now a niche market, high end moviegoing "product" which is only a selling point for a small proportion of highly educated consumers willing to pay a premium for it. That market is served by the prestige downtown venues and some smaller independents that have built up a reputation such that customers are willing to travel from a significant distance to them, not the big multiplex chains.

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Carsten Kurz
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quote: Marcel Birgelen
It's not just burning discs off-course, you also need to encode it. Run the necessary quality controls on it, etc. But I forgot about the 35mm release, which will probably also get a DTS/Datasat release and German language discs, so it's probably not just a single copy.
Believe it or not - there will be no 35mm prints of Interstellar in germany. Zero. Nada.

It is very true that there is a considerable market for OV, but the costs and conditions for the 70mm screening is such that I don't believe that distributor and exhibitor would risc it with an OV-only presentation. Of course, a few screenings with the US dts discs could actually bring in some additional attendance.

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