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Jason Metcalfe
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Leo I was thinking more like Rafifi. And luckily we had some bolt cutters with us.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Honolulu does not have any 70mm theatres anymore but Consolidated Theatres is showing INTERSTELLAR in 35mm in all of it' houses on Oahu now. Regal seem to have got rid of all of their 35mm projectors but they are not showing it until Friday in 4K and digital IMAX

-Claude

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Paul Gordon
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Checking it out Friday on 15-perf IMAX in Toronto. Will give you all an update after. Might also see it in 70mm 5-perf to compare, if the film is any good... and I'm starting to have doubts.

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Jason Metcalfe
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So we definitely keep getting a very brief audio dropout during that 8A-8B change, there isn't a setting on the XD10 that could help with that is there?

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Marcel Birgelen
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Just guessing, but maybe you configured an optical fail safe where there is none? If there is no fail-safe configured, the XD10 might just "coast" over the part without timecode, instead of trying to fall back to some non-existent failover.

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Gordon McLeod
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Does the timecode light go out on the player and the reader when it happens

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Kilian Henin
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I saw it in 15/70 in Calgary last night and it looked magnificent. It was sold out but I don't think anyone in the audience knew that it was a film presentation. It would have been nice if there had been an announcement or something at the beginning.

What a visually stunning film! I don't know how I'm going to go back to watching sub-par digital movies again--might as well just stay home until Hateful Eight comes out.

God bless Christopher Nolan--and all of the projectionists and theatre owners that actually give a s*** about giving customers the best possible movie experience.

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Brad Miller
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quote: Gordon McLeod
Does the timecode light go out on the player and the reader when it happens
These pictures should clearly answer that question. This is what I was commenting about a few pages back from my bench inspections.

The timecode drops towards the end of reel 8A...
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And then it returns at the start of reel 8B...
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Mark Campbell
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Brad - I noticed from your pictures that the sprocket holes on the left intrude into the picture. Is that normal for 5/70? If so does this mean image is reduced for when projected? Is any of the DP's composition compromised?

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Aaron Garman
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Went to the 8PM screening Tuesday night at the Indiana State Museum IMAX in Indianapolis, IN.

I verified they QC'd the print when the staff was raving about how good it was during the walkup, which was reassuring. They also said they turned up the sound while introducing the film. The audience roared with applause.

The image was terrific. I've missed seeing film, especially large format. A visually stunning presentation.

The audio was appropriate for the film, save for dialogue being buried in the mix. At times, you could not hear what they were saying during sequences of loud music or effects. This may have been a deliberate artistic choice, but one that I felt was not needed.

I highly encourage people to see this at least once in 15/70 if you can. I'd be curious to get to a 5/70 screening if there were any nearby to see if the image is as engrossing.

Forget if it was mentioned, but the studio has setup a site to report problems here.

AJG

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Scott Norwood
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quote: Mark Campbell
I noticed from your pictures that the sprocket holes on the left intrude into the picture. Is that normal for 5/70? If so does this mean image is reduced for when projected? Is any of the DP's composition compromised?
The sides of the image near the sprocket holes would normally be covered by mag tracks, anyway. Presumably, the anamorphic 4/35 material was blown up to 70mm to keep the top and bottom framelines, with the intention that the sides would be cropped slightly to 2.2:1 rather than 2.39:1. This is normal. No doubt, the film was composed with this in mind.

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Sean Weitzel
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Interesting part of the reel the timecode is within a "black" base background and later in a "blue" base.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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quote:
I've missed seeing film,
Saw it today too, I missed seeing film as well, the moment the first film images hit the screen I was like "wow that is what film used to look like"

Overall, the movie was good but not great. The last 30 minutes of the movie is where Nolan loses the film. It felt like a nice build up but with a very little payoff.

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Carsten Kurz
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Now how much of an issue is this timecode dropout? It should be on every print, so are any of the DTS players used able to freewheel over that period? How long is the gap on the film?

- Carsten

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Frank Angel
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Haven't seen it yet, but the anticipation of seeing it in 15/70 is overwhelming.

DTS didn't start off as a format for 70mm, but primarily for 35mm which always had a "backup" analog track along with the DTS code, so there was no real reason not to design it so if code was lost it would always drop back to the omnipresent analog tracks. Thing is, DTS could just as easily configured it to just free-float over any lost code intervals. 70mm became a different ball of wax given its lack of any track other than the DTS code. Same thing with its application to 16mm -- there it replaced the entire analog track, putting in a big fat version of the DTS code filling the analog track space completely. That made it so robust that the changes of it dropping out were practically non-existent

But back to the drop-to-analog issue -- thing is, DTS is perfectly capable of using its own internal sync to "float" over long stretches of lost filmcode and play just the digital audio like any CD or DVD player does and keep relatively constant speed. When code returns, no matter where the DTS disc is playing, which would never be very far off anyway, it would come out of drop-out mode and lock to code just the same as it does when it switches from analog backup back to digital.

I once was able to sync an entire reel of a mono print of THE BELLS ARE RINGING to the DVD stereo track. Amazingly, it played in sync for the entire reel, a good 16 minutes and never slipped out of lipsync.

My guess is, it would probably have been a much better solution if DTS would have designed it so that if the reader lost filmcode, instead of dropping to the analog track, they should have just let it drop to internal line sync and float over the lost code, keeping the digital audio all along. It certainly would have been much less jolting a change keeping the digital audio playing instead of switching to an analog track and letting the audience hear that immediately apparent difference in quality. No doubt in many places the analog system was sorely neglected once the digital equipment went in and the change from DTS to analog was like day and night. It was a disaster when those dropouts were repetitive throughout and entire reel as I once heard and the reversion to analog sounded like stuttering. What made it even worse, the "projectionist/manager" evidently didn't see the necessity of forming the bottom loop carefully -- "hey, we got digital...we don't need no stinkin analog tracks" -- so in addition to the stuttering, in long dropouts, that backup analog was slightly OUT of sync with the image. We heard decent sound in sync/then distorted, MONO sound out of sync/the decent sound in sync/then distorted, MONO sound out out of sync...you get the picture. Simply allowing the digital to floating over those bad code patches would have been a much better solution, IMHO.

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