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Mike Blakesley
Film God

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From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 12-23-2017 11:51 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm bummed / pissed that Disney/Pixar has done away with the extras that used to come with their movies. The trading cards, the custom card of projectionist instructions, and so on. They make all these billions, you would think they could keep a little thing like that. But, I guess they surmised out that most people don't care about that kind of stuff.

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Fredrik Sandstrom
Film Handler

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From: Turku, Varsinais-Suomi, FINLAND
Registered: Mar 2014


 - posted 12-24-2017 03:10 AM      Profile for Fredrik Sandstrom   Email Fredrik Sandstrom   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Olaf’s Frozen Adventure is 1.85, and is presented pillarboxed within the 2.39 frame (black bars on the sides) to preserve its aspect ratio.

[...]

be sure you’re showing the entire 2.39 image

[...]

Confirm that you are running Flat Format (1.85:1)


Wow. Could you possibly provide more contradictory instructions?

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Jim Cassedy
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From: San Francisco, CA
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 - posted 12-24-2017 10:49 AM      Profile for Jim Cassedy   Email Jim Cassedy   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Fredrik Sandstrom
Could you possibly provide more contradictory instructions?
Especially since many theater staff-people don't know their aspects
from their elbows, especially when you start throwing numbers at
them. All they know is "S" or "F" and don't even really understand
what that means or what the difference is.

<WARNING: Rant Ahead!>

Last week I had to make an "emergency" trip down to a theater
that was going to be running a locally produced low-budget movie.

Their projection-dweeb received the drive, for which the CPL was only
"My DCP" and NOTHING else. No aspect ratio, or sound info, etc.

The poor kid had no idea what to do with it. "I can't find the title"
he kept repeating to me.

The film-maker was there too, and even he had no idea, and couldn't
tell me the correct aspect ratio. At one point he said "I think It's 1:85
Cinemascope" I had to put it on screen to determine the correct AR.

... and then I ran into the 2nd "gotcha" - - The DCP only had 2ch audio.
The back-up blu-ray he brought had 5.1. I tried explaining this, but the
filmaker-guy insisted I use the DCP because "it's better quality".
(quite frankly, at that theater, and on the size screen they had, it would
be difficult for average viewers to tell the difference between the two.)

It was obvious to me the DCP had been made from the blu-ray, but whoever
made the DCP didn't transfer the audio info properly. But the film-maker
insisted I use the "better" DCP.

After the show, their audio-guy was upset because I "played the wrong
audio". He insisted I had done something wrong, because "the DCP was
made from the blu-ray (ah HA!) and so it should have been identical.

I don't think I convinced him the fault was theirs. The film-maker himself
was "OK" with things, simply because he cared more with how it looked
than how it sounded.

This is the 2nd time recently that I've had to deal with a situation like
this. The problem is that now "anybody" can make a DCP,even if they
have no friggin' idea of what they are doing.

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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
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 - posted 12-25-2017 07:25 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What Jim describes happens all the time now at "film" festivals. It's like home-made DVDs all over again, but, arguably, worse.

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Alexandre Pereira
Expert Film Handler

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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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 - posted 12-25-2017 08:29 PM      Profile for Alexandre Pereira   Author's Homepage   Email Alexandre Pereira   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I receive a lot of blurays here at the Kingsway Theatre - many with only L and R audio. I never play the blurays directly - way too much of a nightmare. The blurays are converted to DCP using DCP-O-Matic and if there is no 5.1 audio I blend L/R and drop it by -6 db to form a centre channel - that seems to work with my CP500 and the audio system in the main room.
I also scale the video to flat or scope - most of what I get is in 16:9 - including the annoying top and bottom bars that I crop to form scope.
I do this for the sake of presentation but I do not provide the DCP to the distributor or the film maker.

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Kenneth Wuepper
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 - posted 12-25-2017 08:30 PM      Profile for Kenneth Wuepper   Email Kenneth Wuepper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Perhaps in the cause of honesty in advertising, there should be a ruling that you can only use the tern "film" in connection with a festival when actual film is being shown. All others to be known as MOVIE festivals.

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Leo Enticknap
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 - posted 01-04-2018 11:09 PM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jim's experience is one that I went through multiplied many times over at every festival I worked in my last job.

In fact, Jim had a lucky break: at least "My DCP" ingested at all! If "My DCP" had been supplied on a "My Passport" hard drive, fresh off the shelf of the "film" maker's local Office Depot, complete with EFI partition, crapware partition and an HFS+ partition on the remaining space, not much would have happened when it was hooked to the screen server or TMS for ingestion.

quote: Kenneth Wuepper
Perhaps in the cause of honesty in advertising, there should be a ruling that you can only use the tern "film" in connection with a festival when actual film is being shown. All others to be known as MOVIE festivals.
I hear where you're coming from, but the boat has sailed on that one: "film," "movie" and "video" have become effective synonyms, meaning any form of moving image recording, in everyday speech. By the same token, you're never going to stop news reporters referring to cellphone "footage" of some spoiled brat celeb having a screaming meltdown on a plane (I had no idea that flash memory cards could be that long!), and the practice of "CC-ing" someone in an email will likely be with us forever, despite the fact that actual carbon paper hasn't been used since the detectives in 1940s film noir thrillers bashed out their homicide reports, slowly and with two fingers, on a mechanical typewriter (the xerox machine was invented around the time they hung up their badges and retired!).

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Cobi Fox
Film Handler

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Here is a partial list of movies that have come out in 2018 (so far) that have have been distributed on film.
  • Tomb Raider (IMAX 15/70)
  • Ready Player One (70mm)
  • The Man Who Killed Don Quixote (35mm; IMDB claims an SDDS mix)
  • Avengers: Infinity War (IMAX 15/70)
As you can see, this list is depressingly short, but film is still hanging on.

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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 05-20-2018 03:55 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Phantom Thread is also available on 35mm and 70mm, though that may have actually been a 2017 release, officially.

And there is the current 2001 70mm roadshow.

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Cobi Fox
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According to IMDB, Incredibles 2 will be released on 35mm.

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Bill Brandenstein
Master Film Handler

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 - posted 05-22-2018 12:16 PM      Profile for Bill Brandenstein   Email Bill Brandenstein   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you believe Fandango, and you probably shouldn't, the upcoming big tentpole movies with multiple formats include 35mm in the "See it in..." list. Of course, I've never found one where you can click "35mm" and have it link to anything, but here in LA that's to be expected since the only remaining film presentations are the boutique 70mm ones.

The fact that nobody on this forum is seeing standard-issue theatrical titles in 35mm any longer means that film is dead to the everyday public, and has been for some time.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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From: West Milford, NJ, USA
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 - posted 05-22-2018 03:45 PM      Profile for Mitchell Dvoskin   Email Mitchell Dvoskin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Kodak has an ios (and possible android) app, along with a website that identifies film screenings 35mm/70mm. You have to register, but it is free to use.

Reel Film Website

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Chris Haller
Film Handler

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From: Rochester, NY, USA
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 - posted 07-26-2018 10:57 PM      Profile for Chris Haller   Email Chris Haller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
According to director Chris McQuarrie's twitter, Mission Impossible: Fallout is opening on 7 screens in the US on 35mm film. They are as follows:

Courtyard Cinema - Mackinaw City, MI
Leicester Drive In - Leicester, MA
Parkhill Cinema - Tarboro, NC
Palatka Cinema - Palatka, FL
Point Drive In - Northumberland, PA
Hollywood Theater - Litchfield, MN
Mill Theater - Milbank, SD

He also went on twitter to mention that he's had a personal 35mm print of the film made, and hopes to show it in LA at some point in the future.

I guess Paramount REALLY wants to make sure this film is playing in every theater imaginable. None of these cities are major areas, and the closest one to me is still 3+ hours away. I'll stick to our 2K Xenon IMAX for opening day tomorrow.

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Bill Hall
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I wonder if there are any prints of Airport or Waldo Pepper or Titanic out there. Nice movies but one wonders where all the film went ?
Thank you

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Cobi Fox
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IMDb claims that there are 35mm Kodak Vision prints of Goosebumps 2: Haunted Halloween.

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