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Ari Leedsw
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 - posted 02-22-2016 05:36 PM      Profile for Ari Leedsw   Email Ari Leedsw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I didn't pull that number out of thin air, though, despite the habit of some others here to resort to nonsense like that.

I *think* it's $250 for a 2,000. That was five years ago now.

Keep in mind, when the print volumes plumet, you are still paying for a printing negative, too, so dividing that by a dozen instead of two thousand factors in too.

Not sure how many cents a foot the actual costs are for printing and processing.

The lab's cost has gotta be at least 5 or 6 cents a foot for that.

And then what does it cost every time it is shipped? I'm taking into account the cost of the can and three or four transits to and from the theatre in my figures, as well.

EDIT: http://motion.kodak.com/KodakGCG/uploadedfiles/motion/Kodak_Motion_Picture_Products_Price_Catalog_US_Prices_April_2015_ V4.pdf

Current price for 2,000 feet (22 min.) $292.14, and that has to be shipped every time for a not-insignificant amount, even with media mail or ground. . .

With the paltry amount of 304,000 feet or more (57.575757. . . mi.) $0.1427/ft. is the volume price.

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Mark Lensenmayer
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 - posted 02-23-2016 12:59 PM      Profile for Mark Lensenmayer   Email Mark Lensenmayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Is there any confirmed availability of 70mm prints? I haven't seen any information other than some speculation and calls about equipment from Warner.

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Stephan Shelley
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 - posted 02-25-2016 07:13 PM      Profile for Stephan Shelley   Email Stephan Shelley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Grand Lake in Oakland CA just got confirmation on Batman vs Superman in 70mm.

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Brad Miller
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LOOK Cinemas in Dallas TX is confirmed.

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David J Hilsgen
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Willow Creek in Plymouth,MN is confirmed.

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Bobby Henderson
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Obviously the sound mix on 5/70mm would be Datasat 5.1. Some d-cinema theaters will be playing this movie in Dolby Atmos. It's too bad they can't sync Atmos up with 5/70mm using the Datasat time code. Of course, one really needs an Atmos mix worth playing in Atmos to make this worth the trouble; many Atmos mixes are Atmos in name only, sounding not much different than 5.1 or 7.1.

I'm wondering if any IMAX 15/70mm prints will be issued. The movie was shot with a hodge podge variety of cameras. According to IMDB: Arri Alexa, Arri 16mm & 35mm film cameras, Panavision 35mm & 65mm film cameras, IMAX 15/65mm film cameras and even a freaking GoPro Hero 4. For all I know someone could have sneaked in some iPhone footage as well.

Supposedly the movie was rendered in 4K, but since there is a 3D version for d-cinema it's a good bet theaters will just be getting a 2K version of it. I just wonder what source(s) would be used for the 5/70mm version and 15/70mm version if any real IMAX prints are made.

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David J Hilsgen
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 - posted 02-27-2016 03:58 AM      Profile for David J Hilsgen   Email David J Hilsgen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does anybody know if the dts track will be on a disc or memory stick, i heard hateful was on a stick ,if it is a stick i have to reconfigure my set up. right now i have 2 readers & a dts 6d & a xd10 with a auto change over board at this point i don't know if having 2 xd10 would control that board like the 6d does on my current set up the 6d is the dominant player?

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Stephen Brown
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 - posted 02-27-2016 05:34 AM      Profile for Stephen Brown   Email Stephen Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Apparently IMAX at Sydneys Darling Harbour will be getting a 15/70 print

Link to Sydney IMAX Page

quote:
BATMAN VS SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE
RELEASE: 24 Mar 2016 RUNTIME: TBCRATING: CTC - Check the Classification
EXPERIENCE IT IN IMAX 1570 FILM
This is a 2D film presentation with select scenes in full screen IMAX.
Stadium style seating for 500 people puts you in the heart of the action.
15,000 watts of digital surround sound will complement images of the highest quality.
Extraordinary clarity and scale make this a uniquely immersive cinema experience.


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Brad Miller
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David - I'm pretty sure the only reason most of the Hateful Eight soundtracks were sent out on USB drives was because BLSI had a bunch of XD20 units that don't have a built-in CD-ROM. Since most were XD10 or XD20s, it just made sense to do USB distribution.

That being said I had one that would not load from USB, so I just re-authored a pair of discs myself. It's really easy. Look at this tips page written many years ago. It's basically the same thing.

Just author one disc with the dts.exe from another semi-recent movie (don't go pulling one from Jurassic Park discs) and put it in the root directory. Then create a folder called DTS also in the root directory. Then put as many audio files in that DTS directory as possible until you are about to run out of room on the disc. Repeat for the "B" disc, but obviously don't duplicate reels. It doesn't matter which disc has which reels on it.

If your dts players have DVD drawers in them, you can also simply author the entire thing to one DVD-R instead of two CD-Rs.

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Scott Norwood
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We got both flash drives and disks for H8. This was for an existing 70mm install, though, not one of the Weinstein/BL&S setups.

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Stephan Shelley
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I tried using the thumb drive in several XD10s with no luck. They sent disks as well which worked fine.

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Leo Enticknap
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I was able to ingest the H8 audio into a 10 via USB, but the menu navigation needed to get to that option wasn't obvious or intuitive. There was a text file on the USB stick we received with instructions, which worked for me.

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Stephan Shelley
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Print is still here so I checked and it was I hadn't found the load from usb in the menu. Very slow loading compared to the disks.

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David J Hilsgen
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Thanks for the DTS info Brad,Stephan,Leo.Anybody know how many 70 prints are going to be made.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 02-28-2016 02:20 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
David - since none of the Weinstein 70mm gear is apparently being utilized, my guess is 10 or 12 (in the US).

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