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Author Topic: Batman vs superman in 70mm Eric Carter Film Handler Posts: 13 From: Redmond, WA, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 02-29-2016 04:20 PM                     The Seattle Cinerama will be showing BATMAN vs. SUPERMAN in 70mm from March 25 - 31. Then they will revert to their laser DCP and Dolby Atmos presentation from April 1 - 14. There will be 10 70mm venues nationwide. After that they will show THE HATEFUL EIGHT in 70mm from April 15 - 21. Tix are on sale now.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-29-2016 05:15 PM                     Studio Movie Grill Royal (Dallas, TX) confirmed.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Schulz Master Film Handler Posts: 387 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 02-29-2016 09:03 PM                        quote: Aaron Garman That's interesting. Budget constraint on a film that was poised to make billions, and did? You would also think that they would have to have decided to do 2K or 4K digital intermediate pretty early on, and how could that have been a last minute decision? I know the DCPs were all 2K, but the master itself? I'm still a skeptic. My understanding of the situation (not just with The Force Awakens, but most films) is that it's the cost and rendering time of VFX in 4K that is the real limitation. Even with the help of Moore's Law, the computational requirements for 4K rendering, especially on the types of schedules that most movies are on, are prohibitive. In many cases, even with an unlimited budget, it's simply not feasible to produce all of the VFX in 4K within the limitations of the post production schedule in order to have a 4K DI.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-29-2016 09:50 PM                     My thinking about 4K and visual effects is they're trumping off 4K in favor of 3D. If not that, then it's over 2K always being at least 4 times faster and cheaper than 4K. Modern computer systems are many times more powerful than those of the early 2000's when the first 4K digital intermediates of new Hollywood studio movies were being rendered. IMHO, the real problem is the money people. If you tell them modern technology can render a 4K scene 200% faster than it could 3 years ago the money guys will come back an say that means a 2K scene could be rendered 800% faster. It's all about being cheap. Put more money in some douchebag's pocket and not so much on the screen. Not that it matters. I probably won't watch the HDTV resolution movie more than once anyway.  |  IP: Logged David J Hilsgen Expert Film Handler Posts: 192 From: SAUK RAPIDS,MN . USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 03-05-2016 12:11 AM                     Found out today sound track will be on disc, not memory stick & the print might come on cores  |  IP: Logged Stephan Shelley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 854 From: castro valley, CA, usa Registered: Nov 2014 posted 03-05-2016 12:54 AM                     Got a call from Warner's today asking about getting it on cores. I don't have a 70mm split reel so they will put it on reels for me.  |  IP: Logged David J Hilsgen Expert Film Handler Posts: 192 From: SAUK RAPIDS,MN . USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 03-05-2016 01:49 AM                     I built one out of a 35mm one 30yrs ago  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 03-05-2016 11:24 AM                     quote: Stephan Shelley I don't have a 70mm split reel Does anybody even MAKE 70mm split reels anymore? I did some quick searching and couldn't find a source, but maybe I just didn't look hard enough.  |  IP: Logged Stephan Shelley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 854 From: castro valley, CA, usa Registered: Nov 2014 posted 03-05-2016 11:57 AM                     Looks like Goldberg Brothers still will make them on request: http://goldbergbrothers.com/movie-theater-products/projection-booth-equipment/reels/  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-05-2016 03:56 PM                     No problem getting 70mm split reels. Definitely from Goldberg but I suspect other suppliers might also have them like Hollywood Film Company.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Schulz Master Film Handler Posts: 387 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 03-07-2016 04:18 AM                        Just an interesting bit of trivia for people keeping score on film sound history - this will mark the first release of a movie on film with Datasat Digital Sound in the post-DTS/Datasat era. Arrangements have been made for the feature to be released, even though Datasat is no longer officially in the sound-for-film business. I'm thrilled that it's happening, but it's also bittersweet for me, as this will mark the first high-profile 5/70 release that I'm not involved with in over a decade.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-07-2016 03:13 PM                        So is Datasat still mastering the audio and/or creating the timecode negative, or is FotoKem now doing the entire process? In any case, it's good to know that it will still be possible to make DTS/Datasat audio and timecodes for 5/70 releases.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Schulz Master Film Handler Posts: 387 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 03-07-2016 04:28 PM                        Datasat has licensed the timecode track creation and disc mastering to a company called Inventure Studios. You may not know that name, but Inventure is run by a gentleman who used to manage the optical sound business for NT Audio, which in the heyday of film shot the vast majority of OSTNs for Hollywood. Inventure also has in its employ the former DTS/Datasat engineer who built and maintained the camera for shooting 70mm track. So, the process is in good hands.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 03-08-2016 11:16 AM                    Could they make a generic set of TC negatives, each longer than the longest possible 70mm reel, which the lab could then use if someone wanted to make just a few 70mm prints? Naturally, without unique title information the matching disks / data could play with any 70mm print that used these negatives but hopefully anyone running 70mm nowadays would have the sense to play the correct track. PS: For those who don't know, the timecode negatives for 70mm prints are actually 35mm.  |  IP: Logged David J Hilsgen Expert Film Handler Posts: 192 From: SAUK RAPIDS,MN . USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 03-08-2016 06:15 PM                     After digging my 70 split reel out ,i realized its only a 16". ordered a 23 3/4" w/ 1/2 hub from Goldberg today thru Brightstar here in mpls ,they said i will have it, at the end of the week.i didn't check hollywood film co  |  IP: Logged

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