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Topic: Batman vs superman in 70mm
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Jim Cassedy
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1661
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted 03-23-2016 08:31 PM
quote: Fabian Schreyer Do you remember how exactly you were able to ingest audio on an XD10 via USB?
I managed to fumble around and figure it out for myself. It wasn't until after I did that that I realized there was a text file of instructions on the USB stick along with the audio. D'oh!
If I recall, one of the key things was to NOT insert the USB stick until AFTER the 1st two steps. I don't think it worked if you started the process with the USB drive already inserted. But I could be wrong. (and possibly was, according to Stephan's post below)
Just follow the instructions exactly as written below.
(Sorry for the ALL CAPS - - But this is how the text was formatted on the USB stik file it was copied from)
XD10 SELECT ENTER BUTTON, THEN PLAYBACK, SELECT ENTER BUTTON AGAIN. USE DOWN ARROW BUTTON TO SELECT "LOAD FROM USB" INSERT USB AND SELECT ENTER BUTTON **DOWNLOAD WILL TAKE A FEW MINUTES, PROGRESS SHOULD BE DISPLAYED WHEN DOWNLOAD IS COMPLETE IT WILL STATE DOWNLOAD IS FINISHED. SELECT OK/ENTER TO REMOVE DRIVE. VERIFY CONTENT HAS BEEN LOADED BY GOING TO THE MENU, SELECT PLAYBACK, ENTER, THEN SCROLL DOWN TO CONTENTS
XD20 SELECT ENTER BUTTON, THEN PLAYBACK, SELECT ENTER BUTTON AGAIN. USE DOWN ARROW BUTTON TO SELECT "LOAD FROM USB" INSERT USB AND SELECT ENTER BUTTON **DOWNLOAD WILL TAKE A FEW MINUTES, PROGRESS SHOULD BE DISPLAYED WHEN DOWNLOAD IS COMPLETE IT WILL STATE DOWNLOAD IS FINISHED. SELECT OK/ENTER TO REMOVE DRIVE VERIFY CONTENT HAS BEEN LOADED BY GOING TO THE MENU, SELECT PLAYBACK, ENTER, THEN SCROLL DOWN TO CONTENTS
<They look identical to me, but this was what they sent<
Disclaimer: The DTS unit I was using was supplied by BLS and I didn't take note of the software version it was running on. So the above instructions may, or may not, work with your player. But I don't think you'll hurt anything by trying. . . . ]
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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 03-24-2016 04:02 PM
quote: Steve Kraus Could they make a generic set of TC negatives, each longer than the longest possible 70mm reel, which the lab could then use if someone wanted to make just a few 70mm prints? Naturally, without unique title information the matching disks / data could play with any 70mm print that used these negatives but hopefully anyone running 70mm nowadays would have the sense to play the correct track.
This is how DTS on 16mm is handled. There's only one negative. One serial number for all of them.
I learned this first-hand during setup for a screening of some student shorts at the DGA. A few of the titles were on 16mm with DTS sound. We loaded them into the XD-10 and then listened, astonished, that they all played the soundtrack of the last one we had loaded. I guess each one over-wrote the previous one loaded.
Rest assured, this was discovered during testing, not during the actual show. I'm pretty thorough about pre-flight testing.
For the actual show, IIRC, we ended up deleting whatever we had loaded on the hard drive, and ran each short directly from its CD-ROM, to ensure that we were in control over which soundtrack got played back.
It worked out fine. But, I must say, it was a little alarming to discover this "gotcha" on the day of a show.
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David J Hilsgen
Expert Film Handler
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From: SAUK RAPIDS,MN . USA
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 03-25-2016 03:47 AM
I've got a head scratcher going on, which i thought i had solved my set up is a DTS 6D & XD10 w/ 2 readers & a board that will switch between the 2 players. when it got to R 8 on my 1st show my 15year old reader dropped out & the 6D stopped & it switched over to the XD10 & the new reader that we just bought. it got me thru the show. checked it between shows, started the next show ,that reader still didn't come on ,so i grabbed another 6D hooked it up, just the time code cable & the reader came back on & the player kicked on, ok i thought problem solved,when it got to R-8 cut out again. after the show i ran a test trailer that worked fine, maybe something with the time code, were the new reader can tolerated it, looked at it couldn't see any thing different between R-7 & R-8 code. anybody else running 6D player?
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 03-25-2016 10:11 AM
quote: Steve Kraus Could they make a generic set of TC negatives, each longer than the longest possible 70mm reel, which the lab could then use if someone wanted to make just a few 70mm prints?
quote: Manny Knowles This is how DTS on 16mm is handled. There's only one negative. One serial number for all of them.
When DTS was first launched in 1993 the 35mm time code was generic, just reel and frame numbers. They had to change the 35mm time code data to include film ID. Some theaters were trying to play Heart and Souls but forgot about Jurassic Park discs still in the DTS players. I don't know if DTS had the issue fixed by the time Hard Target, the 3rd DTS movie, was released.
quote: Monte L Fullmer Feel bad for those folks waiting to see an excellent 70mm presentation to where it looks like it was shot in 16mm...so damned grainy in a lot of scenes, plus the procedure of abandoning the usage of camera dollys isn't allowed anymore - so much handheld camera work where the steady picture isn't allowed.
I'll repeat a theory of mine regarding ShakeyCam™: I think the hand held stuff is done to cover up flaws in production design and CGI quality. If you have a nice, smooth dolly shot that's held on screen for more than 18 frames the viewer will have some time to notice the level of detail in the scene. The sets, wardrobe, lighting and any composited CGI effects will all have to be well done. If the imagery is a bunch of rapid cuts from one shaky whirrly blurry shot to the next the viewer won't be able to focus on much of anything. This kind of production style can hide a lot of crappy short cuts used to save time or money. ShakeyCam™ can let a "filmmaker" quickly bullshit his way through a scene.
The reviews of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice are not good, but some are funny. Eric Snider said the movie is "like putting your head in a beehive for two and half hours." The movie has a 30% score at Rotten Tomatoes.
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