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Mike Blakesley
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I'm not buying a HD DVD player until they are $99.99 or less, which they will be as soon as two things happen:

1. One of the two formats dies a slow painful death;

2. Regular DVDs are discontinued (or at least put on death row, like LPs and cassettes were).

Of course it's always possible that the general public is just fine with DVDs the way they are and both new formats will tank out, like is happening with SACD. I wouldn't care if that happened, either.

As for HDTV, I'm willing to spend oh, maybe around $500 on a new set. When they hit that point for about 60 inches, I'm in.

Why in the world do we have to use a spinning disk for all this stuff anyway? I predict that within 10 years, storage will be so cheap and plentiful that you'll be able to just play movies off of a stick or something. Either that or everyone'll just stream everything off the Net and nobody will have any spinning disks. (Then the terrorists will attack "the internets" and we'll all be screwed, entertainment-wise.)

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Mike Blakesley
As for HDTV, I'm willing to spend oh, maybe around $500 on a new set. When they hit that point for about 60 inches, I'm in.
When has a TV that big ever been that cheap?

Relatively speaking, today's HDTV rear projection screens have much higher quality and much lower prices compared to old 4:3 ratio projection screen NTSC-only TVs sold only a few years ago. I remember decent NTSC rear projection TVs commanding $5000 or more.

Basically, the price is going to come down only to a certain point on those giant sized televisions. I paid nearly $600 for my old 32" RCA CRT television nearly a decade ago, and that model was on sale (the regular price was nearly $800).

I want a pretty big HDTV set whenever I'm set to buy, at least something around 60". Considering materials costs and all that other stuff, I'm prepared to pay around $3000 for the thing. I'm just not willing to buy right now over technical reasons rather than price point.

quote: Mike Blakesley
Why in the world do we have to use a spinning disk for all this stuff anyway? I predict that within 10 years, storage will be so cheap and plentiful that you'll be able to just play movies off of a stick or something.
I think that's fairly likely, so long as the lawyers out there can agree to it.

When the Internet gets fast enough it will kill video rental stores. And that development may be minor compared to a lot of other things that will happen when average Internet connections sustain data download rates of 30 million bits per second and more. HD video on demand will be possible. The traditional methods of television broadcasting over the air as well as cable/satellite delivery will be taken over by IP delivery. The whole nature of telephony will be changed too, with a great deal of it being video-based.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Bobby Henderson
When has a TV that big ever been that cheap?
Well, never, of course. But once HD hits the mass market, and the Chinese start flooding the US with cheap sets, it will probably happen.

One thing I know I can say with certainty: In 20 years, we will all look at DVDs and laugh at how quaint they are, just the way we do now with 8-tracks (those of us who remember them, that is.)

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Jesse Skeen
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I'd still rather listen to 8-tracks than music on a computer!

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Since I like to embrace new technology from time to time I will probably buy one but would like to know if they only have an HDMI output. My tv uses RGBHV input for HD.

Mark

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Bobby Henderson
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I'm pretty sure HD-DVD and Blu-Ray player both require either a HDMI connection or a DVI connection with HDCP compatibility for HD playback.

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Joe Redifer
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The $200 HD-DVD player that you hook to your Xbox360 will do 1080p over component. Or 1080i. Or 720p. Or 480p. Or 480i. But it won't do 240p.

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Mike Schindler
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The others do HD over component as well. The thing that everyone's worried about is that future movies will use the Image Restraint Token, or whatever it's called, which would limit the resolution over component to 540p.

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Edwin Sheldon
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I still haven't upgraded my 19" TV, let alone purchased a next-gen video player.

I echo Joe's sentiment about being able to skip stupid intros/animations/warnings. Every time my player says something along the lines of "operation not permitted" when I try to skip this meaningless garbage, I want to shoot a puppy in the face. I purchased the DVD. It is mine. When I see an unskippable FBI warning on a disc I have paid $20+ for, I think of the irony of their preaching to the (captive) choir.

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Sam Graham
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quote: Mark Gulbrandson
Since I like to embrace new technology from time to time I will probably buy one but would like to know if they only have an HDMI output. My tv uses RGBHV input for HD.
Assuming you're meaning component...every HD-DVD and Blu-ray player on the market today has component outputs that can output HDTV. There is a flag the movie companies can use on their releases that restricts output through these to a 960x540 line image via downconversion. So far, no company is using this flag.

quote: Bobby Henderson
Very few devices on the market have HDMI 1.3 connections. Even the new Playstation 3, due to hit store shelves on 11/17, doesn't even have them. PS3 was too far along in production to incorporate the new standard.
Everything I've read says the PS3 WILL have HDMI 1.3. Sony's first standalone Blu-ray player doesn't have 1.3 and is often referred to as having been too far along in production to incorporate it, so I'm wonder if that's what you're thinking of.

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Bobby Henderson
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According to the Tom's Hardware website, Playstation 3 does not have any HDMI 1.3 connections. They are only HDMI 1.1. So beware of the first batch of those consoles at the very least.

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Joe Redifer
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That goes without saying. One should beware of the first (and second) batch of any Sony consoles. Both the PS1 and PS2 had many, many, many problems due to Sony's crappy quality. I won't be interested in a PS3 for probably a year. Hopefully there will be a good game for the system by then.

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Sam Graham
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quote: Bobby Henderson
According to the Tom's Hardware website, Playstation 3 does not have any HDMI 1.3 connections. They are only HDMI 1.1. So beware of the first batch of those consoles at the very least.
From C-NET PS3 Review:
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Furthermore, the PS3 is the first A/V device to hit the market to utilize the HDMI 1.3 specification. That doesn't mean much now--there's no corresponding HDMI 1.3 products to connect it to. But in the future--2007 and beyond--that should enable to PS3 to pass HD video and next-gen surround-sound audio (such as Dolby Digital Plus and Dolby TrueHD) to compatible A/V receivers via a single HDMI cable. In the meantime, the PS3, like other Blu-ray and HD-DVD players, can pass 1080p HD video and uncompressed LPCM surround soundtracks to compatible A/V receivers and TVs.

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Frank Angel
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The others do HD over component as well. The thing that everyone's worried about is that future movies will use the Image Restraint Token, or whatever it's called, which would limit the resolution over component to 540p.

WHAT?!! Can someone elaborate on THIS? Is this just another form of the studios still wanting to regulate what they've already sold you?

Also, can anyone speak to something I heard only in passing about Blu-Ray, in that it needs to have a connection to the internet so that it can be effin "validated" before you can play it? Because if that is true in ANY form whatsoever, they can take a handful of disks, rub Bengay all over them and shove the lot up their collective buttholes. Really, what's an Image Restraint Token?

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Chad M Calpito
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I'll just wait & see how things go before I buy either Blu-Ray DVD Player or the HD-DVD Player. I honestly can't say what factors will influence my buying decision until I do more research.

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