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Greg Anderson
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The problem is that Ewoks will always look like little people in teddy bear suits. I don't think they can fix that without a major CGI budget.

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Mark J. Marshall
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Bite your tongue.

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Brad Miller
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quote: Greg Anderson
The problem is that Ewoks will always look like little people in teddy bear suits. I don't think they can fix that without a major CGI budget.
Why not? Yoda always looked like a muppet and CGI fixed that right up!

Everyone is complaining about how George is ruining the Star Wars movies. You don't see him "fixing" Willow or Howard the Duck, do you? Of course not, because those were PERFECT TO BEGIN WITH! George is simply trying to make the Star Wars movies as perfect as those. [Razz]

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Joe Redifer
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"I am altering the film. Pray I don't alter it any further."

"This movie is getting worse all the time!"

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Michael Coate
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 - posted 09-04-2011 09:34 AM      Profile for Michael Coate   Email Michael Coate   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Another Star Wars Blu-ray tweak. [Wink]

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 09-07-2011 04:10 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Here's another thing that makes zero sense. All 6 movies together costs $90 at Amazon. But if you want the original trilogy only, the price is $40. The prequel trilogy only is also $40. So you pay an extra $10 for no reason that I can find by purchasing all 6 movies together. WTF? Nobody with more than 2 brain cells will buy all 6 in one box.

EDIT: OK the complete collection comes with 3 more BDs. Episodes 7, 8 and 9? Nope, just special features. That's the kind of crap I'd honestly rather watch on Youtube or read on a website. Seriously.

Speaking of boxes, does anyone know how this will be packaged? I want standard Blu-ray cases. It's fine if those cases come in a shitty cardboard box that I can toss into our ever-increasing landfill, but the movies must either be int heir own Blu-ray cases are all 3 movies share a single case, like Star Trek 2-4 do. Ever since DVD came about, studios started getting extremely retarded on their boxes. I just know it will probably be some fold-out shit with a Yoda doll or some such thing that makes no difference in the quality of the movie.

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John Wilson
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I saw the prevues at the store today. I had to ask the guy if this was actually coming off a Blu Ray because it looked so ordinary. He said it was Blu.

The sub-titles of Jabba are sharp, but the rest looks way ordinary. Phantom looks like video.

No thanks. I'd prefer the 4x3 letterboxed originals.

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Geoff Jones
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In case anyone is interested, there's a guy named Harmy who has been involved in a preservation effort of the original films.

Using a variety of sources, he has created 720p versions that attempt to restore everything to the way they looked in theatres in 77, 81, 83. Those that have seen them claim that they are pretty effective, even on larger screens.

Do an internet search for "Harmy" and "Despecialized Star Wars" to find out more.

Also interesting imo is how the official Blue Rays have been "one-star-bombed" at amazon to knock their review scores down.

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Michael Barry
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John, so far I've tried playing 'A New Hope' and 'The Phantom Menace' and they both look incredible. It's likely that the screens you saw them on weren't set up/calibrated well.

In 'A New Hope' you can make out every pebble near Luke's place near the beginning; truly impressive. 'Menace' is a little more variable and there are some soft shots, but overall it's very impressive. Jar Jar Binks has never looked more detailed. [Smile]

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Joe Redifer
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Just saw how the packaging works. Cheap cardboard with little blue trays/doors inside. If I bought this I'd have to buy 6 regular Blu-ray boxes and print out my own artwork. I don't like cheap-looking cardboard on my shelves. Only homeless people like cardboard. These sets always try to do something special with the packaging.

This video says it all, granted the Star Wars cases aren't this bad.

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Ron Funderburg
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Star Wars, Star Wars, I’m sick to death about that damn Star Wars! Not really that is actually a misquote of Archie when exploded at Meat Head about all the talk of the Vet Nam war!

King George will do what King George will do. We will grip and then he will change it again. And still he doesn’t make the change in the first movie that really bugs me. When Han and Lea are talking in the cockpit, they are traveling at light speed to the secret hide out and the stars are not moving. Bugs the crap out of me fix it George make that hyper space, hyper space.

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Aaron Garman
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Couldn't resist the urge. I haven't gotten through the whole set yet, but here are my initial impressions:

The packaging is both awesome and awful. All the artwork is nice but the slip cover style disc holders may inevitably damage the discs. The marketing guy that produced that should be fired, or better yet, force choked.

The images are stunning to my eyes: I've never seen Star Wars look this good. The amount of detail popping out from all the practical sets, costumes, and models really shines. It really makes you appreciate this style of filmmaking instead of the CGI fest of contemporary Hollywood. Of course, the prequels look as glossy as ever. Phantom Menace has also been made to look more like them. In context of the series, it works but I would rather see it still look like film.

Sound mixes so far are pretty interesting. I watched all of A New Hope and they've done a great job of cleaning up the mix. Is it the original mix? No. What we are hearing here is details that we never new existed, specifically in the dialogue. It's a little jarring at first to hear that sort of clarity, but honestly I welcome it. The sound was obviously recorded that way, but it just never got worked into the mix. Having it now is a treat and makes for a very engaging sound mix.

The dragon call is cheesy as hell, sounds cool in 5.1, but is totally out of place with the rest of the mix. It was a bad decision.

Watched some deleted scenes. Totally wicked. Can't wait to dig through all of them.

Overall, this is a nice set so far. I wish that eventually we could get the original theatrical versions, but these will suffice for now: I'll just pretend the changes aren't there. Bill Hunt at the Digital Bits made an astute observation that Lucasfilm would be smart to release a polished version of the originals because quite frankly, it's only a matter of time before bootleggers and fans create their own polished version of it. There already is a pretty awesome set of a "de-specialized trilogy" out there that fans have compiled together with HD footage, color correction, etc. plus an attempt at a 70mm re-mix. The results are pretty awesome. I honestly think one day we will get the originals in a great set, whether from Lucasfilm or from concerned fans.

Overall, the set is still Star Wars and it's still awesome. Lots of memories with all 6 of these films.

AJG

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Aaron Garman
What we are hearing here [are] details that we never [k]new existed, specifically in the dialogue.
A lot of it sounds like ADR-city. The timbre and quality of the dialog varies from one sentence to the next. Chop chop! When they were outside with the Jawas buying the droids, I could hear lots of reverb in the dialog... kind of like when Luke yells "Move closer!" while riding the speed bikes in a Jedi scene during the trailer for the Special Editions. Reverb. Why?

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Tom Petrov
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quote:
I wish that eventually we could get the original theatrical versions,
Of course he will release the original movies. Not right now but eventually.

he did it on dvd did he not?

my hunch is that the originals on dvd never sold as well as the tweaked versions.

Still happy I have my faces laserdiscs and my Japan Phantom Menance

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Joe Redifer
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The originals were never released on their own. They were included as bonus discs. I do not think George Lucas is the type of fellow who would release them.

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