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Stephan Shelley
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Something else to check while I am up there.

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Carsten Kurz
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NEC always preferred the Doremi OEM IMB/IMS systems, and they offer serverside subtitling. Also, at the time they launched the NC1000, they probably did not consider the CAT745 for it anymore, as it was EOL.

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Steve Guttag
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Still it is risky since one may upgrade say an NC900 to an NC1000 that had a CAT745 and not be aware that there will be a subtitle issue.

Yes, they definitely prefer the Doremi server. I believe the NEC projectors are the only ones that will put the Dolby/Doremi IMS systems into a standby state when the projector is put into a standby state without having to hit "shutdown" on the IMS.

I believe that the Dolby IMS3000 only achieves some of its highest playback rates while in specific NEC projectors. Probably those with the newer CPU board like the NC3541L

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Stephan Shelley
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Well the test stalled 3-4 seconds in for me on the Dolby cat 745. Also Steve is correct no subtitles unless they are burned in with the Dolby cat 745 in a NEC 1000.

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Paul Looker
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I have an NEC NC900C. It has a GDC SX-3000 IMB. Will I be able to run these test packages?

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Carsten Kurz
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Well, the idea is that you run these test packages to find out. While the equipment type is the major factor, the software version and setup may play the final role. So, download the test package and instructions, get the KDMs, and try.

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Paul Looker
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I’ve read the letter. It says the projector has to be set for single flash before you can even try it. I don’t know how to configure the projector to single flash. NEC hasn’t called me back and it costs hundreds of dollars just to get a tech in the door. If someone could talk me through the single flash setup that would be helpful. Or if someone already knows it won’t do it that would be helpful too.

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Carsten Kurz
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Do you have a current version of NEC DCC S2 for projector setup? There is also a manual which explains 3D file setup. It's certainly doable over a phone line.

The NEC can do the necessary frame rates. The GDC as well, although I don't know if you need to purchase an HFR license. You could simply try playing a 60fps or 120fps Test-DCP to find out.

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Geoff Halls
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One of our players is displaying Black and White only with HFR 2D, 3D test of Gemini Man.
24fps content placed directly before and after in playlist of Gemini 2d HFR test play in colour OK whist IMB is in Alternate version mode.
Other screens with identical equipment, software and firmware are OK.

I updated to the latest SW, SM, FW and Alt FW. HFR still plays in Black and White.

The Christie 2220 Projector is on SW 4.5, other screens still on this version play OK

Anyone else had this problem?

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Marlon Martins
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Not trying to hijack the thread, but anyone know where i can download a 60fps or 120fps DCP? whe got a mail telling us to update the ShowVault to play Gemini Man, but we have no HFR content to test. They send the key almost on time to play the movie, so we do not get much time prior to screening. [Roll Eyes]

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Geoff Halls
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Hi Marlon,

Get in touch with your distributor. Paramount have a download page for the HFR test content. I would sent the link but its for Australia sales Dept.

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Phil Ranucci
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Trying to get information on the 3D setup for Gemini Man.
Barco, GDC, and Master Image systems.
I can get the 2D to play correctly, but the 3D clip doesn't activate the MI wheel. Tried all frame multiplication rates and none will start the disk.
What am I missing?

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Dave Macaulay
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Same here. Nowhere to go for info.

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Adrian Avram
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What version of the Master Image 3D filter you have ?
MI2100 / MI2100R / MI Clarity ?
For the first two I don't think it is working, but for the third, after software version 1.2.0 there is an option to select what frequency you want to sync with, 48, 60 or 72 fps.

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Michal Matys
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It works with 2100R as well

As Adrian mentioned, you need to upgrade clarity to 1.2.0 or higher to get the option to set up the automation to 48 or 60hz. You can run it manually without the upgrade.

The multiplication should be set to 2:2.

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