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John Pytlak
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quote: Paul Mayer
Century Orleans
Screen #6 - 2K DLP
Saturday, 2:40pm; $6.25

No need to comment on the movie itself. Just the presentation, which was almost flawless.

In two words: Very nice. Very nice indeed. Excellent picture size, geometry correction, and focus. Excellent focus flatness, both the lens and the lamp. The approx 60' slightly curved screen did have some minor blemishes, but other than that, things looked pretty good.

Did notice that the picture blacks looked a bit crushed (too low) to me, especially on some close-ups and tight two-shots of Anakin and Padme. Their faces ended up looking like they were almost in silhouette in those shots. Makes me wonder if the DP really wanted those shots to look like that.

Sound was at a comfortable level, perhaps a tad too low (!). Not the best EQ or stage channel matching I've ever heard during the dialog pans, but still quite good.

The only operational mar in this presentation was the switch to non-sync at the end came a little early, cutting off the last trailing off of the soundtrack music. I assume this could be fixed by editing a timecode entry for that cue?

Other than that I was quite impressed.

Thanks Paul. The Century Orleans is one of the Kodak Digital Cinema sites. I'll pass your comments along to the Kodak Digital Cinema Team. [thumbsup]

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Kevin Wale
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quote: Demetris Thoupis
1. In the original series the Jedi's transformed into Ghosts when dying. Why when Qui Gon dies in Ep I he does not transform into a ghost but rather get's burned (don't tell me that Anakin also gets burned in Ep VI but still transforms into a ghost because in Ep IV and VI Obi Wan and Yoda respectively transform into ghosts or rather vanish). And why do Jedi's transform into ghosts and communicate through the all powerful force?
Yoda explains that to Obi Wan at the end of the movie. That's the training to come part...

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2. Obi Wan "speaks" to Luke in Ep V that he should be trained by Jedi Master Yoda, the jedi master who trained him. We know though that it was Qui Gon who trained Obi Wan in the all powerfull secrets of the mysterious force!

All Jedi are first trained in the temple by Yoda... the younglings. In the normal course of events they train there until a certain age where they then sent with a master to be his Padawon learner and get real world experience without being turned loose on thier own.

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3. I do not support the idea that Darth Plageus the WISE was the creator of Anakin because the prophecy suggests that the ONE was created ONLY by midiclorians and not created by someone who could influence the midiclorians but then again this is not made clear. It seems that although he was a sith, Palpatines' description suggests him of being a good Sith! strangely (I love the small pause before Palpatine says .... LIFE).

Indeed it isn't made clear. We are pretty sure from George's comments here and there that the prophecy is somewhat vague (I'm not sure if it was in Phantom or the Clones book but I THINK it was in one of them where it says something to the effect of "And in the time of greatest despair there shall come a saviour, and he shall be known as the Son of the Suns.") We can only guess that elsewhere midiclorians are discussed in it, but to what degree?

I don't think we have any way of knowing which theory is correct, I change every other time I think about it I think lol, but it's certainly possible that in trying to subvert the prophecy, he unknowingly became the very instrument in it's comming about.

quote: Demetris Thoupis

4. The blending of the 3 prequels was good but still leaves some blank spots.

There is going to be a live action series with lesser known characters that deals with some of those blank spots. There was also a cut scene that involved Mon Mothma, Padme, and Bail at least discussing the early stages of a resistance.

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5. How long do Wookies live? It seems that Chewbaka has not aged a day from the prequels to the sequels (neither has Yoda but then again he is an almighty Jedi.... but..... so is Obi Wan!!).

Chewie was described as being 2 or 3 hundred years old back in 77 when the first Star Wars came out.

quote: Demetris Thoupis

6. How the heck did Anakin get that scar on his eye. I always wondered and still that was left unanswered.

Don't know. We know that they have had MANY adventures that are spoken about and of course assumed over the 15 or so years they have been together.

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7. Will there be an Episode 3.5 which will answer all fan questions and last for 12 long hours due to all the issues being left unanswered?

See above about series... Not many unanswered issues though.

quote: Demetris Thoupis

8. HOW Is a bloody lightsaber constructed? How do they get that colour mixing? (red, blue, green, purple)?

Crystals. The color of the crystal determines the color of the blade. How do they do it? It's a movie... THEY DON'T. LOL It's a prop made from a camera flash. [Wink]

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9. It takes almost 20 years from Ep III to EP IV but then again it takes almost 20 years from EP I to EP II. Still one question. Padme does not age a day. Anakin grows up. So we are talking about Anakin (20 years old) having an affair with at least a 40 year old woman who looks no older than 19. But then again the ALMIGHTY FORCE!!

EP I to EPII is 10 years. Not 20. By the way, Natalie Portman does not look all that much different at all now than she did in 98 during principles of EPI, nor does she look much different than she did in Mars Attacks a couple of years before that when she was 15 or so. The ages work fine.

Also, the script calls for Padme to be 14 or so and Anakin to be 10. She's not that much older than he is at all.

On Star Wars.com there is a sort of databank that has all these crazy little factoids in it that you would proably enjoy reading. There's not much it doesn't cover and it specifies what is Extended Universe and what is official.

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Jeremy Jorgenson
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quote: Michael Schaffer
After all, there is only one Jedi which returns.
Well, Luke returns to face Vader and the dark side, and Anakin returns to the side of the Jedi.

But still, I see what your qualm is, "Jedi-Ritter" makes it sound like a many, not just one or two.

quote: Kevin Wale
We are pretty sure from George's comments here and there that the prophecy is somewhat vague
Can I just say how awesome that statement is?

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Bill Gabel
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Clearview's Ziegfeld Theatre, NYC DLP 2K Presentation
Last Day, Tuesday 1pm $10.75 (Around 40 people in 1200 seat Theatre)

I enjoyed the film, but the first half was alittle slow for me. But once it got going to the end, I had a better time with it.
The DLP 2K presentation looked incredible on their screen. The Digital sound was just right, but I missed the Big 70MM mag feel to it. (Like the original 70MM releases) The Ziegfeld's sound system is one of the best in the city.
The only blemishes in the presentation was the 10 used film commercials and 7 trailers before the film. They had dirt and a few had black scratches on them.

Had to see it today, because "War of the Worlds" opens tomorrow in the theatre.

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Andy Summers
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Talking about “Star Wars episode 3 Revenge of the sith” did any of you notice the Wilhelm Scream in it at the beginning, no then check it out as I have noticed it for years starting with Star Wars episode 4 a new hope back in December 1977, and though the 1980’s and 1990’s and still it is around.

Its quite a popular sound effects popping up in films like “The Lord of the Rings the Two Towers”, “Willow” “Raiders of the Lost Ark” etc, etc, etc and I guess there carry on still using it until they get bored using it.

http://hollywoodlostandfound.net/wilhelm/

quote: Even though everyone already knows what happens, PEOPLE WHO DON'T MARK SPOILERS ARE JERKS!

As for the film it made me cry has this was the darkest episode and poor ole Anakin sealing his sole to the dark side just so he can save padmé and all that was once a good Jedi knight was all now lost in vane, watching the dual was the highlight in the film and Obi-wan cutting him up real badly and leaving Anakin for dead while getting burnt alive, I just had to look away, the PG-12 rating in the UK is spot on what did family’s think it going to be a happy ending this was dark and was the saddest moment in the film saga…

And that ending was just jaw dropping the twins born and the two suns setting in the horizon beautiful stuff.

Sound was wow looking forward now for the DVD realise this late fall and with HD-DVD on the up coming horizon, “George Lucas” is looking at that medium closely $$$$$$$$ ring a bell!

And the 3-D Star Wars films “Hear we go again” $$$$$ ££££££ this also rings a bell man I thought he was going to move on with his life, talk about Star Wars syndrome….

Maybe a Jedi shrink will help him out, “let go George trust your fillings”

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Mark J. Marshall
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quote:
quote: Demetris Thoupis

6. How the heck did Anakin get that scar on his eye. I always wondered and still that was left unanswered.

Don't know. We know that they have had MANY adventures that are spoken about and of course assumed over the 15 or so years they have been together.
Anakin got his scar during one of the episodes of The Clone Wars cartoon series which took place between Episodes II and III. Grievous also got his chronic cough (thanks to Mace) during the Clone Wars series.

quote: Demetris Thoupis
8. HOW Is a bloody lightsaber constructed? How do they get that colour mixing? (red, blue, green, purple)?
For the answer to this burning question, click HERE.

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Andy Summers
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A friend told me the colour of the lightsabers, is something to do with how wise they are something like that.

Though I can’t remember, I only like the sound mix and the score by John Williams, but I can find out about it again and then send the information, so be patient my young padawan.

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Kevin Wale
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Yeah, I think I mentioned crystals give it it's color in an earlier post. I believe that sort of information actually came from the role playing game technical books. Some of my friends and I used to spend hours raiding the death star or whatever back in high school. lol

The Wilhelm scream is all throughout EP III. Then there is of course the R2 scream that was tremendously overused... [Eek!] Sheesh. lol

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Andy Summers
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Actual “The Wilhelm Scream” is only heard in reel #1 when one of those huge cannon laser guns, explodes on the spaceship “Wilhelm!”

Man it cracks me up when I hear it, dame funny too, http://hollywoodlostandfound.net/wilhelm/

The most I have heard “The Wilhelm Scream” in is “Willow” 1987 ace film that is…

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Max Einhorn
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Revenge of The Sith is an amazing film and deserves the $108 million
dollars it racked up last weekend. However, it could have been even better but
for the robotic acting of Hayden Christensen who plays Anakin Skywalker (who
later becomes Darth Vader).
Episode III, the final installment of what I now think of as the most amazing
saga of all time, begins three years into the clone wars. Anakin Skywalker
(Hayden Christensen), along with his Master Obi-wan Kenobi (Ewan
McGregor) is sent to seek out the leader of the droid army, Count Dooku
(Christopher Lee, now 73) and General Grievous (Matthew Wood) and rescue
the kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid). Later, Anakin learns that
Senator Padme Amidala (Natalie Portman), his wife, is pregnant and begins to
have nightmares that she does not survive childbirth. Chancellor Palpatine
draws Anakin to the dark side of the force, offering him the power with which
he may be able to save her life. Little does he know he will become twisted by
this power.
The special effects in this film are mystifying, whether it’s the lightsaber
duels or the many aliens that fill the screen. The General Grievous character
is an amazing computer generated image as is the cool komodo
dragon/chicken that Obi-Wan rides around on. Sith, we will, no doubt, see
your special effects crew earn honors come Oscar time
Ewan McGregor really shows how the acting should have been done in this
film. In fact, most of the actors are believable. Christensen, however, is
deadly. Throughout much of the movie he’s very dull and you almost have a
hard time watching him. Portman isn’t very good either, and I felt her character
was very limited. It seemed that all she did was wait around for Anakin. But at
least you can feel what Director George Lucas was attempting.
The Anakin character becomes very cruel and some of the things he does are
absolutely disturbing. If they would have cast someone better than
Christensen the movie would have been much more effective. Johnny Depp,
for example. Why not? He’s young, talented and could have made this
character as evil as he was supposed to be.
Episode III begins as a fun ride with a space battle, lightsaber duels, and even
some comic maneuvers from our buddy R2-D2. But then it slows down… until
Anakin is noticeably darker and evil. Then it’s a lot faster and becomes what
Star Wars is really about.
This film makes up for the last two, which were very disappointing.
Apparently it’s ok to be a fan again. Sith is the perfect transition between the
latest trilogy and the original three films in the series and clears up many of the
questions of the Star Wars saga. Let’s face it, we’ve been waiting for this film
and everyone needs to see it even if you have only seen one previous Star
Wars film. In the film one experiences the transformation of an innocent young
boy into a horrible tyrant who will kill thousands, even the ones he’s loved, in
order to achieve his goals. The war is over, but the Empire has begun. The
Saga is complete…
Rated PG-13 for sci-fi violence and some intense images. Running time 146
minutes.

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Kurt Zupin
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I guess I will be the first to ask Max where did you steal your reviews from?
quote: Max Einhorn
Revenge of The Sith is an amazing film and deserves the $108 million
dollars it racked up last weekend.

last time i checked ROTS made 108m in May, but not October.

????

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Andy Summers
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Quote from-Max’
robotic acting of Hayden Christensen who plays Anakin Skywalker (who
later becomes Darth Vader).
_____________________________________________________________________

“He’s more machine now than man twisted and evil”

That will popularly clear it up about the acting, I liked it and though with just 28 days to go for the galactic showing in my home THX theatre, stuff the “ABC” with there crap sound, donkeys…..

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David Stambaugh
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Apparently Max Einhorn *did* write the EP3 review (and many others), originally for movieeye.com. Looks like Main Street Studios is him too.

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Michael Schaffer
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It also looks like he succumbed to the Dark Side - he actually likes the movie!

BTW, would you pay $350 for a piece of cheap kitsch in a plastic case? If yes, then you have given in to the Dark Side too.

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Kurt Zupin
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hmm, well then maybe he probably should of said something about that those being from his site. I don't know. Just a thought from my mind.

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