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Martin Brooks
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 900
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: May 2002

posted 05-31-2005 09:47 PM

I liked the film a lot better than most of you. I think that many are critical because it’s ‘hip’ to hate George these days. The audience that I saw the film with loved it. Since we already know most of these characters and the storyline, it would be impossible for this film to have the same effect on us as the originals.

Having said that, there were certain things that bothered me:
- As someone else stated, when the platform falls on Obi-Wan and his body is moved, the CGI is terrible (actually, I don’t think this was CGI – looked like a miniature to me) – it looks like a little toy doll.
- Several times in the fight with General Grievous at the beginning of the film, the movement of the ship (presumably when hit by a missile) looks like bad camera shake.
- Natalie Portman can be a great actress (“Closer”), but she was absolutely terrible in this movie. I’m sure this was partly because of George’s poor direction and partially due to working blue screen (or green screen) although most of her poor acting was in scenes with Christensen.
- I actually liked Hayden Christensen’s portrayal, even though he played almost exactly the same character in Shattered Glass. But there were definitely certain key lines that were delivered too passively to make any sense.
- I thought Samuel Jackson was fine, even though he seemed angry most of the time. (More on the anger of the Jedi below).

After seeing this film, I went back and watched the original trilogy (original versions) and found a fair number of plot holes throughout the series, some of which have already been mentioned by others:

Episode III: If anger and fear lead to the dark side, why does Yoda look so angry in each of his “fights”? Why does Obi Wan smile when he kills all the droids in the elevator?
Episode III: If the Jedi can feel changes in the Force and can “search their feelings”, how come they don’t know that Palpatine is the Sith Lord?
Episode III: In an early scene, the Sith Lord already looks like he has the effects of the electrical charges that deform his face later in the film.
Episode III: Why does Darth swear his allegiance to the Emperor even after Padame dies? The biggest reason given for turning to the dark side was to save her life. It’s no longer an issue once she’s dead.
Episode III and later: If Chewbacca works with Yoda to fight the Empire, how come this role is never mentioned in Episodes IV-VI? Does this mean that Chewbacca was hiding his role in the battles from Han Solo?
Episode III-IV: At the end, instructions are given to erase C3POs memory, which explains why he can’t tell Luke in Episode IV what has transpired before. But R2D2 knows everything that happened previously. How come R2D2 doesn’t retell it to C3PO, who can then tell Luke?
Episode IV: I believe there’s at least one scene where Vader sees R2D2 and C3PO. How come he doesn’t recognize at least C3PO, since he built him as a child.
Episode IV: Both the Emperor and Darth Vader “know” that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker. But when the name of Luke Skywalker first comes up, neither brings up the possibility that Luke is Vader’s son. Is Skywalker such a common name in that galaxy?
Episode IV: How does Obi Wan know that Darth Vader was Anakin Skywalker? Same for Yoda in Ep V. At the end of Ep III, he thinks Anakin is dead.
Episode IV: What purpose does Obi Wan’s “suicide” serve? He doesn’t become “more powerful” as he tells Darth Vader he would be.
Episode IV: Vader tells Obi Wan, “You shouldn’t have come”. Why doesn’t he say, “where have you been for the last 20 years?” or “I’m going to kill you for almost burning me to death”?
Episode IV: What is Darth Vader’s motivation for his actions? It’s never expressed. It can’t be to oppose the Jedi or Obi Wan because Obi Wan has been in hiding for at least 20 years and there are no other Jedi, except for Yoda, who isn’t mentioned in Ep IV. Is it to bring order to the Empire? But the only disorder is a small band of rebels. Why does this small band of rebels require the construction of the Death Star? Episode III does a good job of explaining how Anakin became Vader, but Episode IV does not ever explain what Vader now wants.
Episode IV: A more minor quibble, but why does Leia wear her hair like Padame does (with the rolls on the side of her head.) She never knew her mother and I don’t remember anyone else in any of the films wearing that style.
Episode V and VI: In Ep V, Yoda insists that Luke not help his friends, but complete his Jedi training instead. Yet when Luke returns in Ep VI to complete his training, Yoda tells him that his training is complete. Similarly, Vader keeps telling Luke that Obi Wan has taught him well, but Luke had no further training from Obi Wan between the two fights with Vader.
Episode VI: Chewbacca tells the blind Han Solo that Luke is now a Jedi Knight. But later in the episode, Yoda first informs Luke that he is a Jedi.
Episode VI: Leia tells Luke she remembers her mother, but in episode III, Padame dies in childbirth. I don’t buy Dave Williams’ explanation of this, that Leia just remembered a ‘feeling’, since she has The Force.