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Author Topic: Is 3D already dying? Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 08-21-2010 06:37 PM                     At my theatre, we are getting a lot of early interest in the Avatar special edition.  |  IP: Logged Matt Fields Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 545 From: Ohio, United States Registered: Jun 2005 posted 08-21-2010 07:18 PM                     Bobby- there is a 3D Tron trailer...3D is better than average for a live action 3D flick. I tend to prefer the 3D animation to the live action 3D.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-21-2010 09:57 PM                        I guess we can use our single screen status to an advantage here -- we can skip over the crappy 3D movies, so our audience will (hopefully) learn that when we do play a 3D'er, it's worth the extra bucks. I've also toyed with the idea of not doing the surcharge on movies that are (a) less popular and/or (b) not playing us on the break, but I'm worried about confusing people.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Bangs Expert Film Handler Posts: 148 From: Kerrville, Texas, United States Registered: Sep 2008 posted 09-23-2010 04:17 AM                        I find that after watching a 3d movie I come out saying it was good but would have been just as good in 2d and saved me the cost of the glasses. I will admit with the right movie it does add a little something. I remember watching JC's Avatar and once during the film I moved my head out of the way of a branch that flicked back at the screen. I then realized I was sufficiently drawn into the environment and I liked that but when you use these cheesy "coming at you" effects all it really does it remove you from the movie experience. not to mention it scares any of the little kids in the theatre making them cry and disturbing the rest of us while the parents try to convince them it will not hurt them. I agree they need to limit the amount of films being released in 3D so that it is more of a special event. But you tell the studios well if you make this 3D then you get an extra % from tickets then they are going to say Make them all 3D. IDOTS!!! Also I hate to say this since we all take such great care of our presentation Quality but I think some people are willing to pay the extra price because they know 3D is presented on a digital screen and not on a 35-mm Screen. Another side is the owners of theaters are going to save bit of cash as they will no longer have to keep a "Projectionist" or 2 on duty all day they just need a manager who can turn on download and program. After that it is push a button and go or if you want program the timer and, how did that slogan go??? "Just set it and forget it!" So what they loose in revenue they no longer have to pay in salary which will offset some of the cost. Ok so I may have drifted but Oh well I feel better now.  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 09-25-2010 09:56 AM                     If you over use special effects, then they are no longer special.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-28-2010 08:52 PM                        This should kill it. From Variety, today, Sept 28: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118024771.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=vertfilm Posted: Tue., Sep. 28, 2010, 6:05pm PTPrint Share 'Star Wars' saga gets 3D makeover Converted 'Phantom Menace' to hit theaters in 2012 By DAVID S. COHEN Star Wars 'Episode I: The Phantom Menace' will return to theaters in 3D in 2012. After more than five years of teasing, Lucasfilm disclosed today that work is under way on converting the "Star Wars" saga to 3D. All six pics will get theatrical re-release in stereoscopic starting with "Episode I: The Phantom Menace," which returns to theaters in 2012. Exact release date has not been announced, but a Lucasfilm spokesperson said the pic will open wide and "as close to day and date (worldwide) as possible." The prospect of six "Star Wars" pics released in 3D should stifle speculation that the format is a fading fad. It also promises to reintroduce the franchise to young auds who are used to 3D and only know 'Star Wars' from homevideo and the "Clone Wars" Cartoon Network skein. 20th Century Fox will once again distribute. Fox domestic distribution prexy Bruce Snyder called the series "perfectly suited" for 3D and said "I expect this to be as much fun for people that have not experienced 'Star Wars' as it was for people who were there in 1977 staring at the screen with mouth agape." Spacing of the re-releases has not yet been determined, as that will depend on the pace of the conversion effort. There are no plans yet for a homevideo release. John Knoll, visual effects supervisor for Lucasfilm's Industrial Light & Magic, is overseeing the conversion, which is being done by outside vendors with close oversight by ILM. Knoll said Lucasfilm is committed to ensuring that the 3D conversion delivers results as good as a movie shot and authored in 3D. Knoll said that it'll be used to make the experience more immersive and he'll avoid some of the more jarring, exaggerated uses of 3D that have marked previous stereoscopic pics. "Having seen a lot of stereo material, I have very strong opinions about what I like and don't like about stereo," Knoll told Variety. "I'm going to be applying my aesthetic. It's not going to look like (conversions) we've seen in the past." Knoll said there are no plans to add or fix visual effects on the movies. Over the years, Lucas's digital tweaks on the original trilogy pics have generated pushback from fans. Contact the Variety newsroom at news@variety.com. Read more: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118024771.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&ref=vertfilm#ixzz10sYvIv8z  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 09-29-2010 01:03 AM                    quote: Martin McCaffery There are no plans yet for a homevideo release. It's already on home video damn it!  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-29-2010 10:45 AM                        Hopefully it will be improved from the test footage we saw a few years ago. It was underwhelming to say the least. They would do better to simply release the "original" versions of Episode 4, 5 and 6 in theatres again. But of course this is just a lead-up to releasing Blu-Rays and 3D home versions. Gotta milk the old cash cow one more time before the "spinning disk" era is over.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-29-2010 01:01 PM                     Digital photo-manipulation technology has made great strides in recent years. Software has been improved to handle difficult masking/extraction chores such as isolating hair, smoke, ice, etc. The newest version of Photoshop can do things like remove an animal that is standing in front of a fence and paint in the fence behind where the animal was standing. It's amazing stuff. Still, those new capabilities get someone only so far. When the shot has varying levels of focus or some outright low depth of field the masking/extraction work is going to be tough or near impossible to do. Additionally, even if all the objects in a camera shot can be extracted onto their own floating layers they're still stuck with a big problem: they're only 2D objects. It's not easy to give all of those objects accurate 3D volume. To get a 2D/3D conversion anywhere near the quality of 3D done right will take an enormous amount of pains taking work. And then the finished result might still not look all that great.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 09-29-2010 09:00 PM                     Don't worry so much -- it's not your problem -- that's why they pay the other guys the big bucks!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-29-2010 10:29 PM                        quote: Martin McCaffery This should kill it. I agree. If anything were to be solely responsible for killing off 3D, this could be it!  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-30-2010 02:09 AM                        Are you kidding? If they would do it the right way and FORGET Eps 1,2 and 3, and release the good movies, the fans would come out in droves (bitching all the while, but money talks) and it would be called the SAVIOR of 3-D, and then every Star Trek movie (or some other old franchise) would get the treatment. But, if they go ahead as promised with 1, 2 and 3, sales might be so crappy they'll scrap theatrical plans for the others and go right to Blu Ray 3D with them.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 09-30-2010 02:17 AM                        3D will be dead by the time the good Star Wars movies come out. Movies like Phantom Menace and whatever the second one is called "I Hate Sand..." or whatever will do nothing to make customers believe that 3D is not a fad. Of course Variety says it isn't a fad, but Variety is a shitty rag who has its lips firmly planted on the collective asses of the big studios. They'd be better off re-releasing An Officer and a Gentleman in 3D than this shit. And it is shit.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-30-2010 08:28 AM                        Jar Jar Jinks in 3D. Need I say more?  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 09-30-2010 09:21 AM                        I love how they talk of 3D success in terms of the number of titles. That's like counting bullets that are unspent and equating each one with a victim. It is possible that there will be no witnesses to the crime; no tickets sold to films made. Louis  |  IP: Logged

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