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Author Topic: Coca-Cola FREESTYLE...the future of bad soda Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 12-01-2013 11:03 AM                        Even the difference between pouring the drink first and then adding the ice later is better. I do believe that I can see where this machine is coming from. At the Atlanta airport, International departures, none of the food court users serve Coke themselves. They charge for the cup and then they send you to 4 of these machines. With the possible increase in the min.wage, it may well be cheaper to get out of the business of actually pouring it FOR customers. Multiple machines mean that delays are minimal. Louis (Notice that I didn't mention quality? No one seems to be concerned about that anymore.)  |  IP: Logged Victor Liorentas Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: london ontario canada Registered: May 2009 posted 05-18-2014 08:45 PM                     We started with Coke but they dropped us when we didn't change from the tanks to the bags. So Pepsi jumped right in! I didn't see this come up in this thread. What is the main cause of excessive foam? Pepsi and diet Pepsi are driving us crazy! It's most of the time but not always. Seems to be getting worse but it's never a problem with Sprite and Ginger Ale. I'm talking foam that takes forever to dissipate and wastes so much time when we are busy.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-18-2014 08:57 PM                        Historically foam is worse when the temperature of the syrup and the water is not the same, especially if much over 40F. Our best result was when National Amusements had a walk in freezer with a 5000 gallon tank for water and the bag n box all set up with recirculating pumps. No foam ever.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-18-2014 09:23 PM                     quote: Louis Bornwasser Even the difference between pouring the drink first and then adding the ice later is better. Fill the empty glass about 1/3 full, add ice then top off the cup. Makes a big difference in the taste.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-18-2014 09:28 PM                        quote: What is the main cause of excessive foam? Pepsi and diet Pepsi are driving us crazy! If your syrup lines are cooled by a cold plate in the bottom of your ice bin, be sure to stir the ice up thoroughly at least once a day or more. If the ice is floating on a layer of water at the bottom of the bin, the cold plate isn't as cold as it should be and the syrup doesn't get cooled properly, hence foam. For us Diet Pepsi always has the most foam no matter what. The rest, no problem.  |  IP: Logged Victor Liorentas Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: london ontario canada Registered: May 2009 posted 05-18-2014 09:54 PM                     I'm using pre-mix in tanks not post mix syrup. No bags in box here.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 05-18-2014 10:59 PM                        If you're using styrofoam cups, count on foamy drinks. The comments about temperature are also correct. Serving pre-chilled product reduces foaming a lot,  |  IP: Logged Connor Wilson Expert Film Handler Posts: 190 From: Sterling, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2011 posted 06-16-2014 04:59 PM                     Not the biggest fan of these. I once approached a freestyle at a Five Guys to get some water, and there was some juice mixed in the water. I emptied it and refilled it, and then it gave me actual water. Water is the only thing I drink, anyway.  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 06-19-2014 02:11 PM                     You can expect there to be some residual syrup from the previous product poured. I rarely drink anything other than water myself, but no matter what I'm pouring from one of these, I let it run a few seconds before putting my cup under the dispenser. Especially if I'm drinking water.  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-19-2014 02:28 PM                        After being in this business for all these years. I pretty much drink only water now. That's it. Probably because I've seen the inside of one too many fountain machines...  |  IP: Logged Steven J Hart Master Film Handler Posts: 282 From: WALES, ND, USA Registered: Mar 2004 posted 11-13-2014 07:44 AM                        Was at Universal Studios in Orlando this last weekend. They have added another "feature" to the freestyle machines. They sell you a cup with a microchip embedded in the bottom. The freestyle fountain will not dispense unless a properly coded cup is in place. Rinsing the nozzle is only possible here by dispensing into the cup, then dumping it out. On the Coke vs. Pepsi debate. I purchased my own fountain machine for our small theater. This allows us to have Coca-Cola and Diet Coke along with regional favorite Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew outsells all other drinks at our location. I also installed multiple water filters on the supply to the fountain. This really helps the taste of the soda as our city water supply has a nasty taste. I'd like to go with reverse osmosis filtering, but it wouldn't be practical for supply of a fountain.  |  IP: Logged Steve Matz Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 672 From: Billings, Montana, USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 11-13-2014 09:55 PM                     Well COKE has been pissed off at PEPSI going clear back to the days when bottled 6 ounce Coke was a Nickel. Pepsi bought a ton of 12 ounce Bottles from a business and kept the Price at a Nickel for 12 ounces putting a big damper on Coke's domination in the Soft Drink Business. The only Coke Product I liked was when they came out with NEW COKE(which essentially was Pepsi) and Cherry Coke when they started selling it in our State in the 90's. Drank Gallons of that Stuff but eventually got away from it also' Just recently tried the Mexican Coke which uses pure CANE SUGAR verses Corn Syrup which all the Domestic Mfgers have been using for decades. It comes in 12 ounce Glass Bottles and is considerable more expensive than the Corn Syrup Variety. I also see PEPSI has a Pure Sugar Version out also(probably using Beet Sugar though). Mountain Dew is also in a Sugar Version. Don't really see any significant taste difference between the Sugar Variety and the Corn Syrup Variety; so save your Money Whats Ironic about COKE & PEPSI is that Both Companies know each other's so called Secret Formula's which I truly believe when they came out with the NEW COKE. If I put a Blindfold on you and gave you a NEW COKE to Drink followed by a PEPSI you wouldn't know the Difference.... quote: Mike Blakesley For us Diet Pepsi always has the most foam no matter what. The rest, no problem. The excessive Foam is more than Likely the reaction of using ASPARTAME with POTASSIUM BENZOATE which is a part of Diet Pepsi and other Diet Sodas. Big Controversy for years about ASPARTAME being a Cancer Causing Additive...  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-13-2014 11:04 PM                     Now that this thread has floated up again, I'm reminded of one more reason I don't like the Freestyle machines. The ice chute is too long. It's probably because, in order to pack all the components into such a tight space and maintain the size profile that they wanted, they had to mount the dispensing motor near the top of the machine and route the chute down through a tangle of other components. Consequently, when you push the ice lever, it takes as long as a second for the ice to fall into your cup. That's not so bad, by itself but, when you release the lever, ice keeps falling as the cubes that are still in the chute fall down. The upshot of this is that it is difficult to time how long to press the ice lever so that you don't end up with a cup overflowing with ice... which you will have to dump down the drain. Next time you see one of these machines, look in the drain tray. I bet you'll see it is full of half-melted ice cubes from all the other people who accidentally overfilled their cups with ice and dumped half of it down the drain. Not only is this a design flaw, I think it's pretty unsightly, too. It don't feel very appetized to drink Coke when I see a slop bin half full of melted ice and spilled soda. Do you?  |  IP: Logged Jarod Reddig Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 513 From: Hays, Ks Registered: Jun 2011 posted 11-13-2014 11:44 PM                     I hear ya Randy Ive complained to my wife about the damn ice nozzle too.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-15-2014 11:29 AM                     Randy, in addition I don't like getting my hands wet when dispensing a soda because they put the nozzle (which sometimes drips) over where I have to put my cup. Interestingly I found out a few things about these Freestyle machines this last week. I was inquiring about why some Freestyle machine taste like ass and others taste acceptable and a few actually taste almost indistinguishable from a real fountain. Turns out my assumption was right...software updates. What sucks though is Coke makes the locations PAY for a software update...to make their own product taste more like their own product! That's just dumb. Also of interest, if you select regular Coke and add ANY flavor to it at all (cherry, lime, etc), you are using the flavor addon that you selected and Coke Zero, not regular Coke. It's the way the machine was designed and explains why the stores go through an insane amount of Coke Zero. People aren't really drinking that much Coke Zero, it's people thinking they are getting regular Coke but want a flavor addon using up all of the Zero syrup cartridge.  |  IP: Logged

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