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Justin Hamaker
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Going back to the 60's, the average price of a movie ticket has more or less tracked with inflation. Although the average ticket price is higher than the federal minimum wage right now, that has more to do with the minimum wage not rising for nearly 10 years (I'm not trying to start a debate on this issue).

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Jack Ondracek
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Went down again on Monday (7-30-18). Social media is exploding.

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Marcel Birgelen
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Had some friends from the U.S. over yesterday. One of them is a MoviePass subscriber for over half a year, so I had a little chat about his experience.

According to him, it has been a hit-and-miss most of the time. In the beginning, it mostly went fine, besides the app often crapping out at the moment he arrived at the theater.

At least according to him, they've been playing this game to discourage subscribers from actually using the service for a while now:

Those missing showtimes for popular features is nothing new or when they're listed you would often get a random error while trying to book them. Some theaters were not listed at all or were listed, but offered no show times. In some cases, the show times weren't up to date and listing the show times from a while ago. Also, his favorite theater was only available on Thursday, the day all tickets sold for $5...

He ended paying full price for the movies he really wanted to see. Not being able to reserve your seat while most others get the opportunity, often ends up with you being stuck in a shitty seat.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Heard new buzz that Mitch Lowe made the announcement that the new releases of "Chris Robin" and "The Meg" will not be available for MP users-total lockout.

...tick...tick...tick...!

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Marcel Birgelen
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An interesting and probably mostly honest view by The Verge on MoviePass (YouTube)

The app seems to be showing "There are no more screenings at this theater today" for any location right now, whereas earlier this day it seemingly wasn't even able to get the listings.

Meanwhile HMNY took another dive today of roughly 38% and they closed on exactly 50 cents a share. So, they're now into pink sheets territory.

To me it looks like this is the end. The only thing that can save them now is some moronic investor sinking a shit-ton of money into this beast, but by now, the brand seems to be almost toxic.

At last, here are my 50 cents a share: Shut it down!

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Mike Blakesley
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Just announced they are raising the subscription price to $14.95 a month, but still won't have new, big movies available. The website still touts the $9.95 plan...get it before it goes up, folks!

These moves are supposed to bring them to profitability faster!

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Monte L Fullmer
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Plus, even at 50 cents a share, who is going to let their money go for someone else to enjoy a film for free?

Maybe a clan of members of sorts so they can support others..

..go figure.

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Rick Cohen
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Anybody interested in buying 2,000,000,000 shares of MoviePass for .01 each? Asking for a friend.

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Mike Blakesley
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This must be one of the "headaches" Farnsworth was talking about when he made this statement....

quote: Mike Blakesley
"It's a fastest-growing paid subscription ever in the history of the internet — period," Farnsworth said. "So you're not going to go through that without headaches."

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Mike Blakesley
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I looked at the MP Facebook page and the one positive thing I can say is, at least nobody seems to be blaming the theaters. I suppose when MP folds up its tent, they'll try to place blame on the bad'ol movie theater industry but hopefully people are too smart to fall for that.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Ive talked to some who are card holders and are aware of this destruction of MP.

They're blaming the serious fraud issues and the mismanagement of getting an organization started that is killing this service.

Yep, the price you pay for something free. Not a great reward at times.

-Monte

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Kenneth Wuepper
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Our local CBS station carried a story this morning on Pass on the MP.

Not a pretty picture they painted.

KEN

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Steve Kraus
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I was watching the app today. MI still grayed out as expected. I didn't see any surcharges but most popular times are simply not listed. You can use MP for an early matinee or for a late night show but that's all.

My monthly renewal date is the 20th. We should have a better sense by then (if they are still in business). If it is not saving me money then I'm done. I will likely sign up with AMC.

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
They're blaming the serious fraud issues and the mismanagement of getting an organization started that is killing this service.
Maybe it's simply their business model that's borderline fraud?

If I would start a bank where I would give you 5 dollars on top of every 10 dollars you check out of your account, then I bet you that people would start to line up to join.

And why would anybody mind the huge piles of cash we're burning? We've got millions of customers, we'll figure something out to make money from them, right?

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Frank Cox
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MoviePass will limit customers to three movies per month
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MoviePass, the struggling movie subscription service, will limit customers to three movies per month.

The company is trying to burn less cash so it can stay in business.

Under the previous plan, customers could see one movie per day in theaters. The change to three movies per month takes effect August 15. MoviePass says 85% of its customers already see no more than three per month.

"It has become clear that a small number — only 15 percent — of the subscriber base has been stressing the system," Ted Farnsworth, the CEO of parent company Helios and Matheson (HMNY), said in a news release.

If a subscriber wants to see more than three movies per month, the company will offer a discount of up to $5 on additional movie tickets.

The company also announced Monday that it will keep the monthly subscription price at $9.99. It is backing away from a plan, announced just last week, to raise the price to $14.99.

As part of its new model, MoviePass is doing away with a bunch of other changes, too.

The company will suspend surge pricing, which sometimes added as much as $8 to the cost of an individual ticket. And it will no longer enforce ticket verification, which required users to take a picture of their ticket stub and submit it to the company as a way to stop abuse of the service.

The new plan will also include "many major studio first-run films," according to the company. That reverses a change announced last week that would have cut access to blockbusters within the first two weeks of release.

MoviePass CEO Mitch Lowe described the changes in an interview earlier Monday with The Wall Street Journal.

"I should have accelerated the process of reducing the burn faster in hindsight," he told the newspaper. "Now I realize no matter how patient investors say they will be, they never are."

Helios and Matheson stock has plunged as investors have grown increasingly doubtful about the viability of MoviePass.

The stock plunged from $39 last October to just 8 cents last month. The company approved a reverse split — a cosmetic change that boosted the stock 250-fold, back up to $21. Since then it's fallen all the way back to 7 cents.

The stock gained 2 cents on Monday after the new plan was announced.

Two weeks ago, the company also borrowed $5 million in cash to pay its merchant and fulfillment processors after it had a service outage and couldn't afford to pay for movie tickets. It later said it paid back that loan.


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