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William Hooper
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Posts: 1879
From: Mobile, AL USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-01-2005 01:40 AM
quote: Randy Stankey
The picture is blurry from the camera movement.
If the camera moves, everything in the picture is affected in the same way, in the same amount.
There's a little camera shake, but notice the seats & right wall have nowhere near the same artifacts as the screen. The seats are a little soft, but scans of sharp pictures often look that soft.
I still think it's something happening in the camera, or the dancing light/dark portions in humidity of the projector beam directly to the screen and reflections from the screen. The length of the exposure allows more of them to register on film.
quote: Randy Stankey
Oh, and that picture of the band on the stage...
They probably used a "hazer".
There's ALWAYS humidity in an auditorium that has had people in & out of it, & sometimes even without frequent traffic. You can tell in exposures even in empty theaters by the more nimbus-like areas around light fixtures even when they've been blown out in overexposure.
No hazer or fog machine here, they were running video:
It's a fairly short exposure, you can tell because the people aren't very soft (they move, dammit!), but you can see the cones of light from the spots & projector in the humidity.
I was at a film shoot in a theatre recently: when they got all the actors, crew, extras & whatever people in & set up, the operator said "it's soft!" It was the humidity of course, & it was chased out by running the air conditioner (in winter!) with the washer/humidifier turned off.
I know there's less humidity in arid & colder geographic locations (dried-out leather & lumber are nightmares in organs in the northwest & northeast when they're located in areas with no climate control), but humidity still stands in auditoriums (& church sanctuaries, etc.) that are built for climate control. Church organs built in cases located in climate-controlled sanctuaries are usually fine, but TO's & church organs located in non-climate-controlled pipe chambers in those areas deteriorate very badly.
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William Hooper
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Posts: 1879
From: Mobile, AL USA
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posted 02-04-2005 03:47 AM
quote: Dan Lyons
Great idea to paint an auditorium white. ![[puke]](graemlins/puke.gif)
Hey Ed Jurich, are you out there?
Look at what the Hooterville Ladies Garden Club now running the Mobile Saenger did in their 4.5 million dollar "restoration":
Yes, they've painted it white except for some tiny gold details & moldings, & bathroom-tile green in some small areas.
Now, all the things which were integrated via decoration are just things that stick out. The air conditioning vents on the ceiling look like ulcers. The blind grillework over the boxes which was part of the decoration scheme now looks like: grilles for air conditioning or something (which of course it's not, it's just decorative).
The minimized redecorating scheme now makes the chandelier look like a bathroom ceiling lighting globe.
Most hysterical are the lighting trees hung from the ceiling. At my first & last meeting in 2000 with that group when they took over the theatre & called in some technical folks, they were ecstatically talking about redecorating & remodeling, removing all that "clutter" of lights on the balcony, & cutting a lighting trench in the ceiling like they'd seen at some flat-ceiling theatre. I'm afraid my poker face finally fell off, & I told them that the balcony rail & box booms are not just historically highly functional positions, but folks in historic theaters with ornately decorated interiors & ceilings don't cut lighting trenches because they're ugly & reveal an embarassing lack of stewardship & appreciation for the historical aspects of the theater. I mentioned the Fox(es), New Orleans Saenger, etc., & they looked like they'd been busted & were terrified.
So instead, it turns out they've hung these huge lighting trees from the ceiling like upside-down painters' scaffolding, & cut holes in the ceiling for access from the attic. They protrude MUCH more into the auditorim than the camera lens indicates - look at their size & position in comparison with the chandelier!
Funniest still is for this newspaper photo-op "soft opening", they've hung 35 instruments on the thing for a one-man piano show! You see, they are for something, not just because we wanted to *do* something!
The big news is the cozy gathering area they've created & they love:
Where's this? Why it's at the back of the house! The Mobile Saenger didn't have to have a wall put in at the back of the house when sound came in, because unlike most silent movie palaces which just had a straight, open line from the screen to the back of the house to the front doors to the street, the Mobile Saenger had a back wall & entrances from 2 sides via a vomitory. They've turned their vomitory into a hallway! All the traffic on the floor, 1,000+ seats, has to go through that little area, which is the *widest* part of the narrow hall - you can see how wide the rest of it is by the narrow entry spaces at the left & right of the little room.
Now the audience go up the aisles to those new doors at the back of the auditorium & have a wall in front of them running the width of the auditorium. It will of course be a clot of traffic & waiting during shows with decent attendance, but scariest (especially relevant because we've been talking about the Glen Cinema disaster), in a fire or panic it will be a dam of people. There are side exits, but architects, managers, & fire marshalls will tell you that the funny thing about people is that they will ALWAYS try to get out the same way they came in, & not even see other exits. Rapp & Rapp (& Saenger's architect Emile Weil, who did consulting work for Rapp & Rapp as well) got the science of moving 2,000 people in & out all day quickly & safely down to machine precision. But they're no match for people who just like to remodel & redecorate, because the point is entirely different.
They don't care that "it looks old" to them is just their personal tawdry taste, & they don't care how anything works. It's all driven by wilfull ignorance & ego.
Easily the 3 most beautiful Saenger theatres were the New Orleans Saenger, Shreveport Strand & Mobile Saenger. The New Orleans Saenger has a continual restoration process & their marketing director conducts research (he knows what the theater is selling to ticket buyers):
The Shreveport Strand was restored & named the Official Theatre of the State of Louisiana.
Even Beaumont, TX last year completed a meticulous restoration last year on Saenger's 1700 seat Jefferson Theatre.
The Mobile Saenger's being plowed under by barbarians. The redecorating orgy's stimulus is "The Country Mouse Sees The Galleria", but it's result is "Brand New Home Depot Before The Shelves Are Stocked".
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Mark J. Marshall
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From: New Castle, DE, USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 02-04-2005 03:41 PM
These were taken at my brother's wedding. They were taken using a digital camera, and these two pictures were taken no more than a few seconds apart. Can any camera experts here explain what the glowing white ball on the bride's veil could be?
Before you answer with "a spot on the lense" or something like that, we have lots of pictures from several different cameras, some digital, some 35mm, and while not every picture has these glowing balls, several cameras seem to have captured them at one point or another, sometimes, just like this... two shots taken back to back of the same thing, one picture has them, and one doesn't.
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I would prefer white or pearl though.
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. And we just about had Jen in Phils backseat too.....
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. I think the saying Stupid is as stupid does fits this one and the Hooterville ladies are sure stupid
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