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Author Topic: Sneak Preview Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 11-13-2003 02:06 AM                     Please start a new thread in FHF for any further discussion of the emulsion in/out controversy.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-13-2003 05:30 AM                     Nah, if jhawk is hell bent on the subject, he can dredge up some old topic from the archives so I don't have to re-explain it to him.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-13-2003 05:41 AM                  So Adam, would you please email me what the ol' in/out thing is about? Thanks! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 11-13-2003 10:09 AM                        Here's the original Kodak SMPTE paper that studied the effect on winding orientation on projection performance: http://www.film-tech.com/manuals/SMPTEWIND.pdf It led to SMPTE Recommended Practice RP 39, which recommends maintaining an emulsion-in winding orientation to optimize projection performance, especially improved focus stability at high radiant energy level on large screens. Note that the experiments were done with triacetate prints. Recent work to study projection performance has been done by Kodak as part of the "Enhanced Theatrical Experience" (ETE) project. Some results have already been published in the SMPTE Journal. Preferred winding orientation of polyester prints is very dependent on the curl of the film and the transport equipment. Winding orientation is less of an issue for focus stability today because platters and large reel automation systems use relatively large hubs. Film curl is affected by relative humidity, with optimum curl at the recommended humidity range of 50 to 60 percent. Very dry conditions may cause excessive "positive" curl, very damp conditions may cause "negative" curl and emulsion softness/sticking.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-13-2003 03:13 PM                     Seriously guys, the next post on winding is going to be deleted. Dredge up an old thread in FHF for that please. (If need be, Charles Everett can probably assist in finding one.)  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 11-13-2003 05:10 PM                     49 manuals, er, updates to go!  |  IP: Logged Scott D. Neff Theatre Dork Posts: 919 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Oct 1999 posted 11-15-2003 12:49 PM                        Brad -- why do you love Quicktime so much? Can't you make Windows Media Files for those of us who hate having 3000 video players on our computer.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-15-2003 01:49 PM                        How many makeup tables does the Cinemark Vista Ridge 12 have? I counted six. Why do they need so many? And is it just me or does Cinemark get the award for "tackiest multiplex design"?  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 11-15-2003 01:53 PM                        Why do they have six MUTs? Well, why are there three platter decks? The extra ones make life easier.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-15-2003 03:38 PM                        Scott, you only need 2 media players on your computer: Quicktime and Windows Media Player. WMP sucks, but obviously you should have it. Real video sucks and you should NOT have it. Same goes for pretty much any other format. Quicktime is the ONLY video format that is completely cross-compatible between Macs and Windows. MPEGs will kind of play on a Mac (stutters for the first second) but MPEGs are bloated and look bad, plus cannot do widescreen... only letterbox. I'm not sure if they can do 24 frames per second either... only 30.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 11-15-2003 03:49 PM                    Um...can I get these files on 35mm? Thanks.  |  IP: Logged Scott D. Neff Theatre Dork Posts: 919 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Oct 1999 posted 11-16-2003 11:24 AM                        Joe-- that answer really didn't clear up why I can't have an MPEG of these fine things. And why are we still catering to mac users anyway?  |  IP: Logged Chris Hipp Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1462 From: Mesquite, Tx (east of Dallas) Registered: Jul 2003 posted 11-16-2003 12:18 PM                     Mac users are just better than the rest of us  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-16-2003 04:00 PM                        Why would we ignore Mac users and offer .wmv files? That is even more stupid! MPEG cannot do widescreen 24fps either, like I already explained. I have created some MPEG versions for some of the older 4:3 30fps material.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-16-2003 04:04 PM                     If we made MPEG files of these, then a good chunk of the bandwidth would be spent on encoding the black letterbox bars. Besides we also learned a long time ago that Quicktime files look a heck of a lot better than MPEG. Just be glad we aren't encoding in REAL player!!! Not only is the quality insanely bad, but everytime I have put REAL player on one of my computers it starts having all sorts of crashes. Once removed, the computers are solid. Now to be a good boy and download Quicktime.  |  IP: Logged

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