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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
Boardwalk Hotel?"

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 - posted 06-29-2006 08:38 PM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It probably is. ADAC is the German automobile association. I don't think they publish videos of fake crash tests.

quote: Richard Hamilton
Jen, it is hard to explain how the people here think. When I tell my girlfriend about this night, the only thing she will be pissed about is that I lost money!! 100 dollars is about the average monthly income here! If I had sex and paid this girl 100 dollars, then my girlfriend wouldn't care, as long as I wore a condom, because I got what I paid for.
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People think the same way everywhere. They may act differently, but only on the surface, and the deeper the emotional level, the less "cultural" difference is there. It hurts girls from that cultural sphere just as much as from anywhere else if you are unfaithful, even "only" with a hooker. These things aren't even "cultural", they are very deeply ingrained in the human nature. They may be more likely to accept or tolerate it because of more patriarchical structures, but the emotional pain is just the same.
Keep that in mind.

I am not passing moral judgment on you, BTW. I come from a cultural sphere in which you can do a lot of things that are tabooed and even illegal in the US. I am just giving you some advice. I had several "Asian" girlfriends myself, and I know the tendency to think they somehow think differently because they look and behave differently is very strong. But it's not true, not under the surface layers.

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Joe Redifer
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Compare that to the States where a worker demands 50 bucks an hour and bitches if he has to work overtime, or doesn't get a cigarette break!!
You'd complain, Richard, if you made less than you do installing IMAX or whatever the hell it is that you do. If anyone working for me complained about not being able to get special breaks just to smoke, I'd fire them in an instant. Hell, I probably wouldn't even hire a smoker. They should have thought of the constant need to satisfy their cravings before entering the workforce where actual work is expected.

A lot of what is wrong with the American industry can be attributed to constant minimum wage increases. Minimum wage goes up, everyone else's wage in America stays the same. I can see why people complain about that. Unions then go on strike and eventually most wages everywhere else get a bit of a boost. To survive, prices everywhere in the country must go up. And when prices go up minimum wage is increased again. Inflation is to be expected, but it is happening much more quickly than it should. Unions had the right idea when they were started, which is rights and fair pay for workers. There isn't any need for unions if workers are being treated and paid fairly.

Of course in China zillions want to work and they are happy to make $100 a month. That's because there are quadrillions of them and there are so few jobs, and jobs that pay $100 a month can usually only be found at the big factories.

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David Stambaugh
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 - posted 06-29-2006 08:53 PM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There's a lot of variability in the quality of Chinese manufactured goods. Some of it's fine. The electronics for example. Sheesh, everything in consumer electronics is made in China now. Some "pro" stuff too like network hardware. All made under contract for US & Japanese companies to their specifications and probably indistingushable from US-built product. Where I work we've purchased about 30 el-cheapo 13" TVs in the last year (tools for game developers) and amazingly not one of them has been DOA and none has died even though they're left on 24/7. Considering their lack of brand names and the ~$60 retail price that seems like a pretty good track record.

On the other hand there's Chinese-made office furniture (chairs for example) that just don't hold up. Of course that may be why they sell for $60 instead of $600 like Hon or Herman Miller (before they outsourced their mfg. to China that is).

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Richard Hamilton
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Michael, I know. That is why I have not cheated on her. She told me once because we are so far away that I can have sex with a girl, but only for 1 night and if I am safe. I cannot do that because I know it is not right. The other night, I would not have had sex with this other girl had I stayed awake. I just thought it was a funny experience I would share. I will tell my girlfriend about it.

Joe, what would happen if America closed their borders and stopped all imports? There are not enough people and factories in America to support the lifestyle that we are used to.

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Pravin Ratnam
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Oh man, Richard, you are a very strange man. You get a massageee without a happy ending and then bring a hooker into your room not to have sex, only to end up losing money that would have paid for the hooker for an entire night anyway? I wish I can get a girlfriend with her attitude. When I read your story, I was thinking like her, "damn those 100 bucks got stolen and he didn't even get laid"

The only thing to feel guilty about is carrying around 100 bucks when you are partying drunk with a stranger.

No need to feel defensive about outsourcing. I boycott Walmart (well 99% boycott) only because of how they behave in the US not because they get cheap imports from China. What are you importing from China, anyway?

Have lots of fun. Man, you look like Sean Astin from Rudy in the profile pic , but look like Theo from Road Rules in the pic with the chinese hooker.

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Richard Hamilton
Joe, what would happen if America closed their borders and stopped all imports?
Who has suggested or even insinuated doing something like this?

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Tim Reed
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quote: Richard Hamilton
I just returned from a 5 hour massage!!!
At the Petro truck stop in Bordentown, NJ, there's a Korean family that runs the massage concession in the foyer. Everytime you walk by, the girls all come out to hound you: "You want massage? You want massage?"

Normally, I just nod them off and continue walking, but one day, I stopped and said, "How much to give YOU one?"

It got a big laugh from all the truckers standing around.

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Richard Fowler
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Strong / Christie / QSC / General Electric and others utilize Chinese manufacturing on some of their products...so it is not only WalMart [Razz] Wal Mart is trolling the underbelly while major manufacturers are selling the cream [Razz] Most of my sales are Import / Export....I sell American products to them....they sell me products we no longer make [Cool]

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Richard Hamilton
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Pravin,
We will be importing clothes, electronics, food items, novelty items. The list is endless. This trip we are dealing with all the different factories and finalizing prices and details and ordering product. As soon as this comes together, I will have a website. Right now we are dealing with some big companies in the States that want to buy from us, and concentrating on their orders.

quote: Joe Redifer
You'd complain, Richard, if you made less than you do installing IMAX or whatever the hell it is that you do.
No, I wouldn't. I negotiate what I get paid before I do the job. Every install or service call is different. If a company doesn't agree to what rate i feel is right for the job, then I go on to the next job.

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Joe Redifer
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OK you may not complain, but you wouldn't work. Then you'd be FORCED to accept a lower wage just so you wouldn't have to cut back on expenses like the Penthouse magazine subscription and whatnot.

You negotiate for service calls? You definitely should have a per-hour thing going on. Somebody calls in a panic "Hey I've got a screen down, it's out largest and most popular auditorium and it's Saturday! Help!" You say "Well I can do it for $50 an hour since I am American and cannot work for less, plus overtime since it is a weekend". They reply with "What? You are insane!" And then by the time you are done bartering Saturday night is over. I'd feel pissed if I called you for a service call only to find out that the guy across town got charged less for whatever reason for the same amount of work.

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Richard Hamilton
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I definately negotiate service calls. For P.M. contracts, I negotiate 2 visits a year plus one emegency call. If a theater uses an emergency call and needs more service, then I charge them 800 dollars a day plus all of my expenses, for special venue. For a commercial theater I charge about 450 dollars a day plus expenses. This is all discussed beforehand. If I can negotiate a rate with the theater, then I do.

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Mike Blakesley
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Only on Film-Tech could a thread about sex, hookers and massage parlors morph into a discussion about service tech rates. (Heh heh, I said "service.")

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Richard Fowler
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Dolby base service rate is higher than what Richard is charging...if he is a male escort he would be charging much more...but would be more bone tired [scream]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 07-01-2006 09:19 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Richard Hamilton
then I charge them 800 dollars a day plus all of my expenses, for special venue.
I think you're giving your services away... Last time I checked Iwerks charged just over 1600.00 a day plus travel and expenses.

Mark

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Gerard S. Cohen
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Regarding the various qualities of Chinese manufactured goods,
my Romanian brother-in-law is amazed at the good quality of such imports sold in New York and Canada, whereas the quality of Chinese goods sold in Romania (one of the poorest European countries) is crap.

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