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Bobby Henderson
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Yes, CGI is possible to do without using a digital intermediate for the whole movie. Prior to 2000, any movie with CGI effects simply had those shots output to film cut into all the other footage processed the old analog way.

O Brother Where Art Thou was one of the first (if not the first) movie to be processed entirely with a digital intermediate. That was at the end of 2000.

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Jennifer Pan
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quote: Mike Heenan
Also, I dont have a font fetish like several people do on this site, but what font was used in the trailer? I thought it was rather lacking and unimpressive.
Bank Gothic

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Bobby Henderson
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There's nothing wrong with Bank Gothic in itself. I've used it on a good number of sign designs, but usually not as the main titling font. It's a no nonsense font with a certain flare for technical themed stuff, but without looking freaking goofy at the same time. It's perfect for something like the title work on 24.

I'll agree it seems out of place in the Indy IV trailer. At least they didn't set the type in Trajan.

Whenever Bank Gothic is used in some national print ad or title work for TV or film I chuckle a bit. Certain design snobs who publicly trash CorelDRAW are "closet" users of it, for things like the wealth of clip art and fonts like Bank Gothic.

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Jennifer Pan
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Trajan is way overused in horror/ancient time films. It wouldn't fit whatsoever for Indy.

Trajan is the movie font

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Bobby Henderson
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Wow. I'm not the only one to rant about the over-use of Trajan.

My own rant from 6 years ago: thread linky.

Something I Illustratored/Photoshopped in that thread:

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I'm sure some hair-splitters will pop in say, "but they're not really using Trajan anymore; they've moved on to Trajan Pro!" At least "pro" is a true "small caps" font. I can't stand it when people artificially create a large cap/small cap effect by setting the first letter in a larger point size. It's crap.

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Joe Redifer
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What font are the letters "A" and "i" in that Artificial Intelligence movie? Looks like the font was invented by Haley Joel Osment or maybe Gilbert Gottfried.

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Mike Schindler
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Here's a cool lithograph from the official website:

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Bobby Henderson
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Doesn't look a damned thing like Harrison Ford. It's just some skinny Japanese animation looking guy wearing a Stetson Fedora.

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Mike Schindler
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Not to be too geeky, but the hat Indy wore in RAIDERS was actually made by the Herbert Johnson shop. However, Stetson does make one of the more accurate-looking Indy fedoras.

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John Wilson
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42 days to go until the release and we still don't have anything but a teaser trailer. That's a tad odd, don't you think?

(In space terms, a 'tad' is half a million miles)

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Mike Blakesley
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I read somewhere that the teaser got 200 million hits on the Indy website the first weekend it was out...they may not feel the need to cut another trailer.

Personally I'm kind of glad they haven't spilled the story across four or five different trailers. Maybe Spielberg is running the show.

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Bobby Henderson
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IMHO, the clip already available is a movie trailer. It's not what I think of as a teaser. Not sure we really need any more than that. Too many movie trailers these days just spoil most of the movie.

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Mike Blakesley
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It used to be that a "teaser" was a trailer that didn't really have much (or any) of the completed film in it. Nowadays I don't think there's a specific difference - in fact you hardly ever see a trailer marked "teaser" anymore.

I got curious about this, so I just went to the booth and looked over our inventory of trailers. Not one of them is marked "teaser." Some of them just say "V1" or the like. The Indy one is marked "Trailer #1."

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Mike Heenan
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I rmeember the teaser for Last Crusade was pretty cool, actually showing behind the scenes footage of the film in progress. It's a shame every trailer is pretty formulaic these days.

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Bobby Henderson
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quote: Mike Blakesley
Nowadays I don't think there's a specific difference - in fact you hardly ever see a trailer marked "teaser" anymore.
I disagree. A decent number of teasers are made. The first teaser for The Dark Knight is what I consider to be a true teaser clip. The footage is just a graphic of the Batman logo crumbling apart from some explosive force in the background. Voice overs play as the logo falls apart. The teaser for Star Trek currently playing in some theaters also qualifies as a real teaser clip.

Lots of other "teasers" are merely shorter length trailers. They show a good amount of action from the movie and even spoil parts of the movie. The "teaser" for Indy IV falls into that latter category.

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