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Brad Miller
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quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
The sound assuming it will be uncompressed will also be something to behold.
Oh Mark now you're just being silly. Both you and I know that won't matter in better than 90% of all theaters out there playing this movie because the sound system design and/or tuning sucks and uncompressed won't save that.

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Mark J. Marshall
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Agreed with that, Brad. What's the saying? "You can't polish a turd"?

Mark, I was referring to Mike's seemingly inability to secure a booking, and I was wondering if there were fewer prints (film, digital, 70mm, 8mm, IMAX and betamax all included) than normal.

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Our booker told me that he's heard there will be fewer prints of Indy than of Iron Man. Hopefully, that means they are very confident in the film.

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One would hope that means Paramount & Lucasfilm will try to have Indy 4 play in theaters for a long time and be a show with "legs." Kinda like Forrest Gump or Titanic.

More likely, they probably just don't have to strike nearly as many 35mm prints. An all-digital multiplex, no matter how large, only needs one hard disc shipped to the theater. Ingest the movie in the main SAN server and then send it to however many screens could be needed. Or load it on every screen for some Thursday Night/Fri Morning 12:01am show if that many butts could get put into the seats.

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The digital trailer looks pretty damn good. We just won't be playing the feature in digital because Narnia will be on that screen.

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Michael Moore
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I figure what does it matter at this point, paramount, Spielberg, Lucasfilm, whatever... Movies are not even half of what they use to be. CGI sucks; sound sucks, and well digital is an excuse... So what does it matter, everything now is driven only by money and that is it. So if paramount says: “no you can't show it because we think the theater down the street is going to make 2 cents more” then I can believe it. When we were told we could not show the first three films before the release of the latest we wondered why. We were told there are many factors why, however the number one factor is "It is not the right time to show the films"... and to build hype, the first three would only hurt the new film. Not sure if that is the truth but this is what we were told.

I wish we could show the first three because our theater is perfect for it, and with Carmike down the road I'm sure it would only help them with the new film.

I think it sucks that the studios these days are really only worried about the bottom dollar, and not the film goers, or the smaller theaters that could put on a great show.
I wonder if the rising fuel cost is factoring into not sending out as many 35mm prints. Think about how much cheaper it cost to send out all those hard drives, or beam it over satellite.

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quote: Michael Moore
I figure what does it matter at this point, paramount, Spielberg, Lucasfilm, whatever... Movies are not even half of what they use to be.
Nobody ever appreciates what's "happening now." I was just out of high school in mid/late '70s, and during that time everyone was also saying how movies are no good anymore, all the good stories have been done, etc etc. Now the '70s is considered an era of many classic films. I expect this decade will be the same. There are a lot of good movies being made, and a lot of crapola...just like in the old days. (Go to my website and look at our old calendars for proof!)

The thing about the studios not caring about the little guy? That has actually improved. Not too many years ago, our booker would have chuckled if I wanted to play a movie on the break, because it just wasn't possible. When I first started to work at the Roxy (1975), we would play movies anywhere up to 18 MONTHS after they were released, and prints were nearly always scratched, spliced, cut-up, etc. Now, we play 12 to 15 a year on the break, and most used prints we get arrive in excellent shape. If "things" weren't the way they are now, it would be a lot worse for us.

So I'm not complaining too loud, just bummed out about the Indy 4 thing. (And things could still change by the end of this week....back to breath-holding mode.)

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Fingers crossed for you Mike...

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Dustin Mitchell
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As an update Indy will be playing in film, but also digital. Our location, which has 3 film capable screens, will be playing 1 35mm print and I believe up to 4 digital prints. Its likely a seating capacity issue, as our 3 35mm capable screens are all mid sized auditoriums.

Paramount is apparantly quite serious about making sure the 35mm prints get played. Any theatre caught running a digital print instead of their scheduled 35mm (possible if the screen is dual 35/DLP) they will be taken off service with Paramount for six months.

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Mike, I've heard that up in your neck of the woods you may be forced to go digital earlier than planned. Basically what I heard was that many of the big theatres in your area that feed you prints 2-3 weeks after the break are going digital so there won't be many 35mm prints available. Any truth to this?

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Mike Blakesley
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I haven't heard anything like that but I suppose it could be true...we're already having trouble getting Warner Bros prints because Carmike is all digital in Montana, and WB hates to transfer prints, so they'll only send a few to the state, which wind up in the larger (non-digital) towns. The result is that we hardly ever play a Warner Bros. movie unless it's on the break.

Update: We did not get Indy, so it's Narnia for us. So, take care of those prints fellas....one of them might be coming my way in a couple of weeks! [Smile]

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I'll send you ours...you're good for the freight cost though, right?

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Michael Moore
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just got word today from my brother in-law at Carmike 14 here in Dover Delaware will be getting one Print in 35 mm and also a digital print. So they will have both in the same building. I told him that was crazy, however he thinks they are going to try to show Digital in at least 4 of the bigger screens and film in one of the smaller screens.

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I can hear it now! "Our digital grosses were five times the grosses of our film print!" or "After just one week, the film print is trashed and the digital still looks perfect...we must switch over as soon as possible!"

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Michael Moore
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bad thing is, he does not really know how to put a film together properly, and no one else in the building does from what I understand... I offered up my services, but the manager said they do not want anyone in the booth other then employees they want in the booth.

Mike

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