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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 10-20-2009 09:17 PM
Canon put out a press release that will be of interest for at least some Canon EOS 5D Mark II camera owners. They're going to release a firmware update in the first half of 2010 to add 1080p/24 and 1080p/25 video recording:
quote: Canon Europe Press Release
“London, 20 October 2009 – Canon today announces that it is currently developing a firmware update to the EOS 5D Mark II to enable the recording of high definition 1080p video at 24 and 25fps. The decision to develop new firmware to support these features has been taken following feedback received from cinematographers and photographers.
Introduced in September 2008, the multi award-winning EOS 5D Mark II was the first DSLR product to offer full frame 1080p HD video recording, opening up a multitude of new creative possibilities for photo journalists, news photographers and amateur filmmakers. Since then, Canon has continued to develop its groundbreaking EOS Movie functionality, firstly with the firmware update to the EOS 5D Mark II that enabled manual exposure control, and more recently by introducing a choice of video recording frame rates with the EOS 7D and EOS-1D Mark IV.
Canon currently expects the firmware update to be made available during the first half of 2010. An announcement regarding details of the update and its availability will be made closer to the release date.”
Previously, representatives for Canon said the 5D Mark II would only be able to do 1080p/30 recording and they had no plans to do any further updates to the camera's video functions after adding full manual capability.
Obviously Canon had a change of heart. They gave the EOS 7D a variety of HD shooting modes, including 1080p/24, 1080p/25 (as well as a couple of 720p modes). Maybe got a little concerned the 7D would undercut sales of the 5D Mark II. Maybe certain photographers who prefer using full frame sensors were highly vocal in their demands for the additional fps modes. As it stands, even with the announcement of the EOS 1D Mark IV (an APS-H cropped sensor camera), the EOS 5D Mark II is the only full frame sensor camera Canon makes that can shoot HD video. Their top of the line model, the EOS 1Ds Mark III shoots stills only.
I also wonder if Canon will add capability to the EOS 5D Mark II to change the frame rates to just under the 24, 25 and 30 fps rates. Standard 30fps video is really 29.97 fps. The EOS 5D Mark II's current 1080p/30 mode shoots 30fps at exactly 30fps which apparently causes some problems when mixing the footage with that of other video cameras.
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John Hawkinson
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From: Cambridge, MA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 10-20-2009 10:49 PM
Err, no, Joe. In the pro world (meaning broadcast video and digital cinematography, RED one, F900R, what-have-you), 29.97 and 23.976 continue to rule the day. Why? Because that's what the post houses are set up to deal with, and if you give them straight 24p or 30p, it causes all manner of problems. Or so I hear from the cinematographers and post nerds.
--jhawk
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 11-02-2009 07:34 PM
Some camera models, in both Point And Shoot and DSLR classes, have silent and/or semi-silent shooting modes.
DSLRs have those noisy reflex mirrors. They slap. Some do it louder than others. My new camera is pretty noisy when shooting in normal fashion looking through the viewfinder. The 5D Mark II is louder than the Digital Rebel series. However, it is much more quiet when shooting in "live view" mode since the mirror is locked in the up position.
quote: Bill Enos
Another thing digital cameras can do--they can make a photographer out of anybody.
The average person may believe that. However the reality is quite different.
Anyone can shoot an ordinary snap shot photo, and that's perfect for many purposes (like the family album, a social network page, etc.). Not many people can shoot a great photograph, even if they have top of the line gear in their hands. Knowledge of lighting, shot composition and lots of other technical things do not come included with any new digital camera. Creative talent isn't included either.
quote: Bill Enos
If you take enough pictures you're bound to get some good ones.
Well, yeah. That's true if the photography subject is still, lighting is controlled and the photographer brackets the crap out of his camera shots if he's not sure about the aperture, shutter speed, ISO, etc.
Most would-be photographers want to take candid photographs of people and capture those special moments. Digital cameras aren't much help over film cameras in this regard because all special moments are a blink-and-you-miss-them sort of thing. You have only one chance to get the shot.
Even the best sports-oriented DSLR cameras cannot cover all the bases in helping the photographer get the shot. Their features do help, but the photographer has to be on the ball working to get the right shots. He has to anticipate the location of the good shots and be ready with the right exposure, focus, composition, etc. when it happens. This is why certain events like weddings are a high stakes pressure cooker for any photographer who takes the job seriously.
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Bobby Henderson
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posted 11-12-2009 10:45 PM
According to this article at the-digital-picture.com the Saturday Night Live 2009-2010 season's opening title sequence was shot using the Canon EOS 5D Mark II and a EOS 7D.
quote: the-digital-picture.com
NBC’s Saturday Night Live Shoots Opening Title Sequence in Full 1080p HD Video with Canon’s EOS Digital SLR Cameras
EOS 5D Mark II and New EOS 7D Cameras Capture SNL Cast In True New York City Nightlife Style
LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y., November 11, 2009 – The new season of NBC’s Saturday Night Live debuted not only with an a new cast, but with a new look for the opening title sequence as the entire opening montage was shot using the Canon EOS 5D Mark II and the new Canon EOS 7D digital SLR cameras. The concept behind the opening sequence was portraiture as the director and crew looked to capture “living” portraits of the city, the cast and the unique characters that make up the New York City nightlife.
The crew wanted to capture the city nightlife in as natural a look and setting as possible. This meant minimal additional lighting, and making those on-camera feel comfortable to act naturally. Their solution was the Canon EOS 5D Mark II and Canon EOS 7D Digital SLR cameras, with their amazing low-light performance, small form factor, and amazing depth-of-field, which enabled the crew to shoot in predominantly ambient light without big lighting gear. The crew also found it easy to covertly shoot around the city without drawing a crowd.
The entire sequence was shot using a combination of Canon’s full-frame EOS 5D Mark II and the selectable frame rates of the EOS 7D Digital SLR cameras. Filming at night, the new stars of the hit TV show were shot in various New York City hotspots by a small crew discretely capturing the cast as they participated in select New York happenings. The entire segment was captured and edited in a week’s time, incorporating 30p footage from Canon’s 5D Mark II as well as 60p footage used for slow-motion segments shot with Canon’s EOS 7D Digital SLR camera.
The end result was that the cast and crew were able to shoot in any location – from the Brooklyn Bridge, which has limited ambient light, to a dimly lit street corner, to a more controlled bar interior – using only an on-camera Litepanels MiniPlus for most of the exterior shots and two Kino Flo lights for an interior shot that required some illumination enhancement. The lack of heavy equipment allowed the crew to move around the city quickly and shoot in some tight spaces.
“We have seen a shift in HD video capture toward a simpler and easier HDSLR workflow, and now with the EOS 7D shooting in standard NTSC and PAL frame rates, customers are realizing an even easier HD video workflow, using some of the largest HD video image sensors on the market at a fraction of the cost of competitive equipment,” stated Yuichi Ishizuka, senior vice president and general manager, Consumer Imaging Group, Canon U.S.A.
The Canon EOS 7D and EOS 5D Mark II empower cinematographers with a high-quality HD video solution featuring full manual exposure control and more than 50 Canon EF lenses to chose from, shooting on two of the industry’s largest HD video sensors. The EOS 7D also features selectable cinematic frame rates. The EOS 7D features Dual DIGIC 4 Imaging Processors and a large APS-C–sized CMOS sensor, while the EOS 5D Mark II features a single DIGIC 4 Imaging Processor and larger Full-Frame CMOS sensor, helping to render stunning color reproduction, amazing depth of field and fine high-definition detail.
The Canon EOS 7D records video in one of three modes – Full HD and HD in a 16:9 aspect ratio and Standard Definition (SD) in a 4:3 aspect ratio, all at selectable frame rates: Full HD at 1920 x 1080 pixels in selectable frame rates of 24p (23.976), 25p, or 30p (29.97); 720p HD recording at 50p or 60p (59.94) and SD video at frame rates of 50p or 60p (59.94). The EOS 5D Mark II features 16:9 Full HD video capture at 1920 x 1080 pixels and 30 fps as well as 4:3 standard TV quality (SD) video capture at 640 x 480 pixels and 30 fps. The EOS 5D Mark II features 16:9 Full HD video capture at 1920 x 1080 pixels and 30 fps as well as 4:3 standard TV quality (SD) video capture at 640 x 480 pixels and 30 fps.
Both cameras record video up to 4GB clip length, depending on the level of detail in the scene, a 4GB clip can record approximately 12 minutes of video at full HD resolution or approximately 24 minutes in standard definition. For both the Canon EOS 7D and EOS 5D Mark II, sound is recorded either through an external stereo microphone or a built-in monaural microphone.
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