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Brian Michael Weidemann
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posted 05-03-2007 05:06 AM

Any band or artist I ever would have lived for went on to put out an album or two or three that separated me from liking them. Bands like to grow, to experiment, to be creative. I'm not against that, in principle, but usually--nay, without fail--they "grow" in a direction away from me, and the things I first fell in love with about the "early" stuff are completely absent, or horribly distorted, from the new.

And so, just to name a few names: Barenaked Ladies, Tori Amos, Van Halen ...

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Hillary Charles
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posted 05-03-2007 05:40 AM

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Odd because if I were asked to answer this question when I was 6 I would have said the Monkees, I had an odd and unhealthy obsession with them at that age. =)

Rachel, they were probably off my radar at that age. Their prime time show was cancelled around 1968, and it wasn't until the show was replayed on Saturday mornings in the early 1970's that I learned of them. I haven't grown out of my own unhealthy obsession after all these years. [Eek!]

Lemme guess, you used to watch them on MTV back in the eighties? Ah, youth! [Big Grin]

quote: Allison Parsons
Did you ever listen to his First National Band? The double Cd Magnetic South and Loose Salute is

Allison, I have some of his post-Monkess stuff, but not that. Thanks for the endorsement.

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Brad Miller
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posted 05-03-2007 05:56 AM

(Jen, it's a quote from 40 Year Old Virgin. [Wink]

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 05-03-2007 09:20 AM

quote: Chris Slycord
It's a common misconception that that song is about love.

Chris, you also misconstrued that I said Every Breath You Take is a love song. It's a song about not being able to overcome the pain felt from an ended relationship and feeling unable to move on.

Wikipedia's description of the song's character as being "sinister" is also a bit of a leap. They just go on about the "I'll be watching you" lyric without seeming to notice anything else. Typical.

They don't seem to mention the bridge that goes:

Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace
I dream at night I can only see your face
I look around but it's you I can't replace
I feel so cold and I long for your embrace
I keep crying baby, baby please...

Anyone who has suffered real heartbreak from love lost knows those feelings. Thoughts of either going near or staying far away from places the former lover visited are common. The charge that Every Breath You Take is a stalker song is a load of bullshit.

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Tim Reed
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posted 05-03-2007 10:21 AM

quote: Brian Michael Weidemann
without fail--they "grow" in a direction away from me, and the things I first fell in love with about the "early" stuff are completely absent, or horribly distorted

E.g., The Beach Boys.

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 05-03-2007 10:44 AM

quote: Bobby Henderson
The charge that Every Breath You Take is a stalker song is a load of bullshit.

It's a desperation song, about being unable to fall out of love with someone. I lived those lyrics in the early '90s.

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Damien Taylor
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posted 05-03-2007 11:27 AM

Just like 'Every Breath You Take', I have seen 'Against All Odds' turn up on a few romantic compilations... Do they even listen to the lyrics before they get chucked on?

As for dying for a band... My tastes change so often, I would probably die in vain. Any other record collectors on the forums? Films and records just seem so right together (not talking about vitaphone).

Actually on second thoughts, i might take a bullet for Jeff Wayne or Rick Wakeman. Fans of The Art Of Noise, should check out one of their newer albums "The Seduction of Claude Debussy". It rocked my socks off.

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Barry Floyd
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posted 05-03-2007 12:13 PM

quote: Brian Michael Weidemann
without fail--they "grow" in a direction away from me, and the things I first fell in love with about the "early" stuff are completely absent, or horribly distorted, from the new.

I totally agree. I was a HUGE Motley Crue fan back in the mid 80's, having every poster, album, cassette, anything with their faces printed on it. Back then I was a skinny 16 year old, long-haired Vince Neil "wannabe". Me and a group of fellow long haired geeks would pile up in my van for weekend jaunts to various places the Crue would be playing in the southeast.

Times have changed, and I guess I have to. I've listened to some of their recent stuff, and it just does not have the sound or feel of what it used to.

Although I just turned 40, the smell of Jack Daniels & Coke, Marlboro Lights, Tropicana Sun Tan Oil all mixed together with some Van Halen (David Lee Roth era) or Motley Crue (Theatre of Pain era) music in the background will instantly take me back to 1985.

Now days I'm more into Kenny Chesney and Rascal Flatts.. I like Avril Lavingne too...but that could just be my "dirty old man" syndrome starting to develope... not that there's anything wrong with that. [Big Grin]

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Andrew McCrea
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posted 05-03-2007 12:51 PM

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quote: Chris SlycordIt's a common misconception that that song is about love.

Chris, you also misconstrued that I said Every Breath You Take is a love song. It's a song about not being able to overcome the pain felt from an ended relationship and feeling unable to move on.

Wikipedia's description of the song's character as being "sinister" is also a bit of a leap. They just go on about the "I'll be watching you" lyric without seeming to notice anything else. Typical.

They don't seem to mention the bridge that goes:

Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace
I dream at night I can only see your face
I look around but it's you I can't replace
I feel so cold and I long for your embrace
I keep crying baby, baby please...

Anyone who has suffered real heartbreak from love lost knows those feelings. Thoughts of either going near or staying far away from places the former lover visited are common. The charge that Every Breath You Take is a stalker song is a load of bullshit.

I enjoyed Dilana's take on the song on RockStar: Supernova. That's a great show!

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Joshua Waaland
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posted 05-03-2007 01:17 PM

quote: Jennifer Pan
Switchfoot and Coldplay. Yeah... I know I'm only supposed to pick one band... but seriously... thats like totally not fair!!

From the beginning till now Switchfoot has been stepping stones in my life. Every album of theirs has songs that I'll always want to refer back to... that still hit me like the first time.

Funny you should mention Switchfoot Jen. I was trying to decide between picking them and Alice in Chains since I had to pick one. Switchfoot is definitely my second runner up. I saw them at a music festival back in 1999 and have been hooked on them since. [thumbsup]

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 05-03-2007 01:31 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
Wikipedia's description of the song's character as being "sinister" is also a bit of a leap. They just go on about the "I'll be watching you" lyric without seeming to notice anything else. Typical.

Since any idiot can edit Wikipedia, you have to take a lot of things on there with a grain of salt. I certainly wouldn't take it as the final definitive word on something as vague as a song lyric subject.

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Chris Slycord
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posted 05-03-2007 01:57 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
Wikipedia's description of the song's character as being "sinister" is also a bit of a leap. They just go on about the "I'll be watching you" lyric without seeming to notice anything else. Typical.

I was focusing on the fact that Sting himself claimed that was the song's meaning (and it would seem he wrote it). But of course everyone can take their own meaning.

So I don't think it's at all a big leap to apply Sting's view of a song as a meaning for that song.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 05-03-2007 06:23 PM

If you also notice (provided the quote in Wikipedia is accurate), having the lyrics be "sinister" was not his intention. Given the collapse of his marriage around that time, the angry and hurt feelings that were poured into that song ring true.

I think a lot of people were trying to apply a "big brother" angle to that song over the band's name and the timely popularity of George Orwell's 1984 novel.

Some of the very best rock songs have raw emotion from painful real life events poured into them. There's an angle to them that seems a little more "real" than most.

I'm not a big Alanis Morrisette fan, but the angry lyrics to You Oughta Know seemed like they could only come from having some painful experience of rejection.

Eric Clapton's Tears in Heaven is a great song, but I don't know how Clapton summoned the strength to write that song after the tragic death of his son.

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Chris Slycord
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posted 05-03-2007 06:44 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
If you also notice (provided the quote in Wikipedia is accurate), having the lyrics be "sinister" was not his intention.

I looked at it a second time and I don't see where you get the above.

He said that it sounds like a love song but that he didn't realize how sinister the song was. That doesn't mean he didn't intend it to have a sinister aspect; just that he didn't realize how much of that aspect there was. He goes on to say that he was thinking of Big Brother and I took that to mean that he was thinking of Big Brother when writing the song. But it could be that he meant that he started thinking of Big Brother at a later date when he noticed the sinister aspect of the song.

Either way, it's a fantastic song.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 05-03-2007 06:49 PM

The song "I'll Be Watching You" is clearly about the intent to stalk, disembowel and murder someone. It can mean nothing else.

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