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Author Topic: Best/worst projector System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 11-23-2004 01:43 PM                 It has been 1210 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Timothy Eiler Expert Film Handler Posts: 126 From: Litchfield , Minnesota, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-23-2004 01:43 PM                        Those old century c projectors just keep humming away for me.  |  IP: Logged Dan Lyons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 698 From: Seal Beach, CA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 11-23-2004 02:49 PM                     They sure do. I've got 2 of them at my theatre that have been running for over 40years. Nice steady picture. danny  |  IP: Logged Don Furr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 509 From: Sun City, Ca USA Registered: Nov 2002 posted 11-23-2004 03:10 PM                     Nothing wrong with a Century "C" but beginning with Supers in 1960 and running everything else since, I've got to stick with my XL's. I just don't think you can beat 'em.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-23-2004 05:58 PM                        Since my earlier post, I _have_ run Super Simplexes in a theatre and, like Aaron said, they suck, unless you like oily messes. I have also acquired a pair of practically mint-condition Century SAs (complete with older ISCO scope lenses, which focus down to 17'). I've also worked with various other types of equipment. I really like Century Cs, SAs, and JJs. I also like Simplex X-Ls/PR-1014s and Kinoton FP30s. I'm not especially fond of Cinemeccanica V5s, Super Simplexes, or MP-30 portables. I have not (yet?) worked with Brenkerts or Norelcos. My current "most hated machine" is the Prevost 16mm (P-16?), though I am sure that Gordon will pop in here to defend it. Maybe they work better in Canada.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 11-23-2004 07:29 PM                     The Pevost P-16 is an unqualified piece of Crap. The potential is there but it doesn't deliver. Steve  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-23-2004 07:39 PM                     In my office I have always had a bulletin board with "Mark's Favorite Projector" posted on it. Its changed from time to time as Steve K will tell you. Always my favorite 70mm is the DP-70 and I doubt that will change. The(current)favorite 35mm is the Phillips FP-56. This is an amazingly well made 35mm and is very tiny but very heavy as is all Phillips machinery. Its so well built that much of the DP-70 is based on many of its features and gearing. Its the only 35mm projector I've run that is as quiet as a well tuned Kodak Paegent 16mm. Splices also pass through inaudible due to the design of the gate which places the entry and exit positions for the splice at its slowest acceleration point. The back door does not require a gasket due to internal baffles and the projector doesn't leak a drop. The down sides of the projector are the somewhat hard to change aperature plates and the odd size lens mount...adaptors must be machined for standard lenses but the ultra fine fine vernier focus more than makes up for that defficiency. Photos below...... Like brand new FP-56 Projector Head with Older Model Phillips Sound Reproducer. Comparison of DP-70 Movement(Top) With FP-56 Movement(Bottom)Both use the same flywheel and drive gear. Sorry Strong... but Phillips had direct drive(with a safety clutch!)back in the mid 1950's. You're a little late.....  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 11-23-2004 07:45 PM                       Cool pictures Mark. I am starting to sell more and more reader kits for this sound head which has the same form as the AA11. Two to Denmark today. How similar is the intermittent?  |  IP: Logged Paul Vollmers Expert Film Handler Posts: 161 From: Sister Lakes, MI, USA Registered: Jul 2001 posted 11-23-2004 08:52 PM                     Hands down..........the best 35/70mm projector is seen in the photo to the left.... <--------- the DP70  |  IP: Logged Robert John Jeromson Master Film Handler Posts: 264 From: Auckland, New Zealand Registered: Jul 2004 posted 11-23-2004 09:34 PM                     I have to go wth the Kinoton FP-30E, no maltese cross, steady as a rock and really quiet. FP-30D is also pretty good. Kinda fond of the DP 70 as well.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-23-2004 09:37 PM                     Sam, Am glad those kits sales are picking up... That tells me that there are quite a few of these projectors still running and that people still appreciate a well made projector. Most parts are still available for them. I will probably order a kit for mine sometime right after the first of the year. The movement is very similar except that the star and cam are not conically ground as in the DP-70, although they seem to be a bit wider. The star bushing is slightly eccentric to allow adjustment of clearance and the cam pin is eccentric(as it is in the DP-70) for absolutely perfect alignment with the slot in the star. These movements basically make no noise at all when they run... heck the projector is hard to hear running without film in it and with film is still very quiet. These are definately the coolest projectors I've ever owned!!! Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Ed Inman Expert Film Handler Posts: 103 From: Jackson, Mississippi USA Registered: Jul 2004 posted 11-23-2004 09:46 PM                        My lowly Super Simplex projectors may indeed "suck" by modern standards, but 67 years after they were originally manufactured they are still projecting a clear, steady picture. I wonder if you will be able to say that about the $124,995 Digital Projection Lightning 15sx projector? (LOL) Ed  |  IP: Logged Brian D. Whitish Expert Film Handler Posts: 103 From: Seattle, WA, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-24-2004 09:57 AM                     Funny you would mention that Ed. I ran a digital demonstration last year for a SMPTE meeting they had here in Seattle. One of the SMPTE guys was much more interested in my Norelco AA2. I basically asked him if he thought that the digital projectors of today would still be running great in 40 years like the Norelco and he laughed. I love my Norelcos. When ever I go to run another projector I feel like Im running a toy. But I ran Simplex XLs for a number of years and never had any problems. Also ran a few JJ2 Centuries that ran well too.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-24-2004 10:31 AM                     Mark the Ernaman machines also had direct coupled motors as did seeral Italian machines of long ago it wasn't a unique idea to phillips  |  IP: Logged Phil Blake Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 558 From: esperance western australia Registered: Nov 2003 posted 11-24-2004 10:34 AM                        I have similar comment as Stephen Jones , having experienced time on the same equipment, BTH Arcs , Super standards and Centrex. I will agree most of the 50's and 60's made projectors were over engineered. BUT they did their job and did it well for 20 years without alot of problems. Apart fromchanging aperture plates , I would vote the kalee 21 as the best , they will run for 20 years without problems. And as for the worst , looks like most of you others think the same , my current projectors , the Vic 5 lucky to run for 20 days without hassels. They sadly lack the engineering quality , but are mass produced for this disposable society in which we live today.  |  IP: Logged

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