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Topic: Deadbeats in the industry (see page 7 for current info on Ron Purtee)
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Tony Bandiera Jr
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From: Moreland Idaho
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 10-01-2010 01:09 PM
Sam, I agree on using some patience, but as I am about to explain I think under the circumstances I have been patient enough.
Sam and Mike: My standard terms of service for any repair/ minor installations are such that they are COD (or cash on completion) and only in rare cases do I ever extend NET terms for service calls. When I do it is either NET 10 or 15 max.
Sanborn was given a full copy of my Terms And Conditions, and before the job was performed on the 1st of Sept. it was understood and acknowledged that they would be billed with NET 10 and MUST pay on time or be charged late fees and have their NET privileges revoked. They fully agreed that a NET 10 would be o.k. and that they would pay on time.
I am here because they have not responded to inquiries, they had me send the invoice three times claiming they never got it, and never even mentioned that they were strapped and need more time to pay.
If a client is up front and honest, i.e. if they had said to me that cash flow is tight right now and they might need more time, I would have been o.k. with that.
I provided the service they asked for, did more things above what was scheduled, and incurred expenses including paying my helper out of my own pocket. I even discounted them because the extras pushed the job into premium time hours, (which I billed them at regular overtime for) so I don't think it is unreasonable to expect them to fulfill their end of the deal and pay the invoice on time!
I have dealt with studios and "big corporations" in the past and go into that deal expecting slow pay. But Sanborn is NOT a "big corporation" and that does not excuse them from this situation.
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Tony Bandiera Jr
Film God
Posts: 3067
From: Moreland Idaho
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 08-02-2011 09:22 PM
Hmmmm, let's see if one is smart enough to figure out the "rules" of this thread based on a few key posts from those first two pages:
Post #5 on page 1:
quote: Brad Miller
Mark, if you have a known deadbeat, list them. Do make SURE that before you post that they are absolutely in the wrong though and have been given plenty of time to make good.
Post #15 on page 1:
quote: Brad Miller
Yup I've already checked with my attorney on this. The deadbeats outed on this thread will remain listed here until such time that they make good on their debt.
Just do note that for anyone adding to this, do make sure you have proof of the debt.
Now the use of the word "outed" in the context of this thread is pretty damn clear, don't you think?
But the real clue lies in the second post on page 1:
quote: Brad Miller
You can add two more to this list.
#1 Ron Purtee and company at Cinema Products International (CPI). Is there any manufacuter this company hasn't ripped off yet? These guys have the lowest morals I've ever seen, right down to bottling up Wal-Mart automotive oil in containers labeled "Century oil", etc. They also have a knock-off product to FilmGuard that they concocted in under 2 weeks after I booted them from being a dealer for failure to not pay their bills. The product is known to damage film over the long haul (meaning a print you use it on today may end up getting you a bill for the cost of the print down the road when that print gets rented out to another theater). What's really sad is they will sell it to you as "FilmGuard" and claim it is the exact same ingredients, then I get the call from the theater panicked and angry about the product that damaged their film because they think it is mine, but upon closer evaluation of the bottle and seller, it is NOT actual FilmGuard. It doesn't take a chemist to figure out that they are not the same product by a long shot. Beware of everything these guys sell, as it is all second rate and the goal of the company appears to screw people. I have invoices 3 years old this company still has not paid. From what I understand, they owe anywhere from $10,000 to a few hundred thousand bucks to pretty much every manufacturer.
#2 Brian Vita of CSS Inc. out of Peabody MS. This guy has a known history of not paying his bills either. I have invoices 2 years old he still has not paid.
I am permanently "topping" this thread, as this sort of info needs to be known.
And of course there are oh, about 15 other pages of people who understand how this thread works... ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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[ 08-05-2011, 01:05 AM: Message edited by: Brad Miller ]
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Tony Bandiera Jr
Film God
Posts: 3067
From: Moreland Idaho
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 02-04-2012 12:14 PM
After consultation with Brad, here's a warning to other Film-Tech members in California, Washington State and Oregon:
If a young man by the name of Justin Ray Hill approaches you for a job, DO NOT HIRE HIM!!
After talking to him and doing an online background check (which came up clean) I brought him to So Cali to assist me and a colleague with a digital install. All seemed to be ok, he did good work and was generally respectful.
However, this past Wednesday, while I was asleep from a severe sinus infection, he decided that the pay he was given for the week wasn't enough..so he stole my laptop computer (with many irreplaceable files), my smart phone, two ipods, a digital camera, two thumb drives, and a USB external hard drive.
If you should encounter him, please PM me right away, I do have a report filed with local law enforcement and the law enforcement of his home town.
So much for trying to help people, eh?
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