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Jack Ondracek
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 - posted 04-18-2007 03:56 PM      Profile for Jack Ondracek   Author's Homepage   Email Jack Ondracek   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'd say that this goes back at least 15 years.

He was looking to distribute an "all-in-one" FM sound system for drive-ins. We had already built our first version. He approached us about having us manufacture them and having him sell them. To get started, he just needed us to send him two "samples". We later learned he was planning to reverse-engineer and make them himself. After we backed out, he came up with the "Sky Monitor". We didn't do much business with him after that... if any.

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Tim Reed
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quote: Bill Enos
from Purtee for years when he was at Marble
That's where I know that name from!

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Chris Slycord
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Bill,
No one is saying he screwed over customers.

The gist I'm getting is that he would buy products at wholesale to sell to customers. But the people he bought the stuff from to begin with never got paid.

So, no; you weren't being ignorant. How could you, as a customer, know that he wasn't paying his bills?

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Steve Guttag
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Chris, that is not entirely true. He sold some "stuff" as "Film Guard" when in fact it wasn't. The C-Lube turned into absolute crap yet sold as the same stuff...same thing with the sensing tape...and on and on.

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Brad Miller
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And I got plenty of emails from people who thought that FilmGuard had damaged their prints, when in fact once they looked at the bottle realized it did NOT even have "FilmGuard" printed anywhere on it. That is just what they ordered from CPI, but they received Ron Purtee's knockoff that he concocted in a couple of week's time instead, and it damaged their prints.

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Chris Slycord
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Touche on that part. I was just pointing out that a customer having a good experience with the guy doesn't mean he is, in fact, a good guy.

The only way for the guy to be ignorant is if it was WIDELY KNOWN (among customers) that the guy sucked.

Hell, when I went to clean a lens on one of our projectors (since one of the staff reported a scratch that really wasn't a scratch), I realized I was using CPI lens cleaning cloth. Though that isn't even the stuff our company uses anymore (we just have some left from before the merger). Doesn't really make anyone ignorant.

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Louis Bornwasser
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I sold him a LOT of new Dolby equipment which he did not pay for. He could then sell at ANY price. It is easy to compete with me when you get the equipment for free!! My customer ended up thinking that I was the one who was too much money!!!

He masqueraded as a dealer, even though he bought from other dealers; just not paying them. Louis

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Brad Miller
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Well here's what we have all been waiting for.

RON PURTEE
BOOTH SUPPLY WAREHOUSE, INC
866-403-6712


I find it interesting that the domain name has been registerd as "private".

Anyone buying from this company is, any way you slice it, advocating criminal activity.

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Steve Anderson
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He has set up shop in the basement of a local theater in Murfreesboro TN pushing used booth equipment.
When I was working tech for a small indy theater in Franklin TN the manager on duty was in a panic about losing a lamp and called Ron who sent over a lamp in a unmarked box and an invoice for $700.00 the manager failed to call me and when I found out I told him to pack it back up and return it. I saw the bulb and the writing was Chinese I don't know what the make was but I told the owners to never do business with this guy. Louis took care of us when we needed a fix.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Where were you guys hanging out at Showorst? Ron was there in the booth with Dick Niccum at Lighting Images Technology. Apparently he has been shipping from that address for quite some time.

Mark

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Richard Hamilton
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quote: Steve Anderson
When I was working tech for a small indy theater in Franklin TN the manager on duty was in a panic about losing a lamp and called Ron who sent over a lamp in a unmarked box and an invoice for $700.00 the manager failed to call me and when I found out I told him to pack it back up and return it. I saw the bulb and the writing was Chinese I don't know what the make was but I told the owners to never do business with this guy.
Unmarked box, but you knew it was Chinese? Sounds like Ron came through for this panicky manager.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Steve Anderson
I saw the bulb and the writing was Chinese
quote: Richard Hamilton
Unmarked box, but you knew it was Chinese?
Ahhhh... Mr. Lick... having eyes ploblem?? Humm, I lead it as posted..... Anyone I know that has tlied them has had bad ruck with them... KaBoom!

Mark

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Louis Bornwasser
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$700 for a Chinese bulb is, itself, a crime. Louis

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Chris Slycord
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I assumed it meant the writing on the bulb was in Chinese as well.

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Frank Dubrois
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So is anything with CPI on it crap? Lens tissue? any kind of fluid? We've had some sitting around for a while. Should it be tossed out? Or are their legitimate products with CPI on them? I'm getting worried.

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