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Author Topic: Deadbeats in the industry (see page 7 for current info on Ron Purtee) Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-22-2007 11:39 AM                        The only CPI thing I ever had was some splicing tape which a tech (now out of the industry) told me was "the same" as Neumade. It wouldn't peel worth a crap - would tear off in tiny slivers.  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-22-2007 01:28 PM                     CPI probably had at least two sources for splicing tape. I have one roll of clear tape marked “Made in UK,” which may very well be re-branded Jack Roe product. “Neutape” it isn't, but the tape isn't half-bad. On the other hand, about a year ago I had the misfortune of using CPI Zebra tape that definitely was not marked “Made in UK.” It was truly horrid stuff that did not peel off cleanly, usually tearing in shards and leaving adhesive behind. After that episode, I decided Neumade's tape was the only way to go...  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Weigel Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1062 From: Edmond, OK, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 04-24-2007 03:27 AM                     The last time I used CPI clear tape (about 7-8 years ago)it wouldn't even come off the roll without splitting. Went through damn near the whole package ( I believe it was 5 rolls) just trying to build one print. Contacted my corporate office back then and informed them of the crappy tape and they promptly sent me Neumade clear tape.  |  IP: Logged Kevin Baglow Expert Film Handler Posts: 135 From: Yeppoon Qld, Australia Registered: Dec 2000 posted 04-29-2007 01:25 AM                        Brad, in future cover your self with a condition of sale that an account keeping fee of $XX will be added each XX days that the account is not paid. This covers phone calls and legals in collection of overdue accounts. But you hopefully you will no longer have any overdues.!  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 04-29-2007 02:10 AM                     Kevin, Film-Tech wasn't the only manufacturer that got screwed. In fact, it would be a much shorter list to name the manufacturers who DIDN'T get screwed! Wait, were there any??? Regardless, supporting Ron Purtee by purchasing products through any company he is associated with is contributing to theft, even if it is indirectly. I would hope this industry is smart and respectful enough of the dozens of manufacturers who make the very equipment and supplies that they use to never support anything he is associated with again. This is why it is important that theaters do not purchase anything through Booth Supply Warehouse.  |  IP: Logged Mike Williams Master Film Handler Posts: 255 From: Knoxville, TN Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-01-2007 07:41 AM                     Brad - watch out, I think he is selling his "FilmGuard" again. - From the CPI website  |  IP: Logged Anslem Rayburn Master Film Handler Posts: 476 From: Yuma, AZ, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 05-01-2007 08:01 AM                     The 1800 number goes to a voice mail [ 05-02-2007, 03:09 AM: Message edited by: Anslem Rayburn ]  |  IP: Logged Mark Escorcia Film Handler Posts: 5 From: West Babylon, NY, USA Registered: Mar 2002 posted 05-27-2007 01:31 AM                        I haven't posted here in,who knows how long... I wish I had known about CPI's practices. I ordered Simplex projector oil;I orderd 2 more,and receved 2 bottles of "Century Oil" and it was darker than the firt bottle. After contacting my service tech suplier,they said to me they were told the bottles were "mislabled" Yeah,right.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-27-2007 01:58 PM                        quote: Mike Williams I think he is selling his "FilmGuard" again If you click on "Products" and then on "Film Lubricants" he has the actual Film-Guard Logo and a link to a Film-Guard info sheet, but no picture of the product. Are we sure he's not really selling the real thing? (Not that I'd buy any from him either way.)  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-27-2007 04:05 PM                     Yes, positive. I received many complaints about how "your FilmGuard damaged my film" and in every single case as soon as I asked them to describe the bottle and the color of the liquid...it was Ron Purtee's ridiculous knockoff every time. I actually paid a few people to purchase a bottle from CPI and report back what they sent. They specifically ordered "FilmGuard" and the invoice said "FilmGuard" but the bottle and liquid was not. When they called to say that they had been shipped the incorrect item, CPI said "no it's exactly the same thing". Yeah right. What an ass.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-27-2007 05:00 PM                     I understand if you can't discuss such thing publicly Brad but you should really take legal action. A cease and desist letter from an attorney would at least get him to remove your trademarked logo/etcc and an actual lawsuit could probably be brought fairly easily considering the actual damage to the Film-Tech reputation that has been done (how many people thought they got film gaurd and didn't contact you to complain but rather vowed not to buy it again?).  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-27-2007 07:58 PM                        If you don't know how much you were damaged, it is impossible to get/receive damages. LOuis  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-27-2007 09:14 PM                     Louis, It may not be all that hard to have his sales records subpoenaed for the last say 5 ears and see how much damage was actually done and who it was sold to. This is clearly Patent Infringement! Brad, Also now would be a good time to attack with a lawsuit while the person that be is not all that stable. His bankruptcy probably has not been settled yet and you might be able to make damage claims there Mark  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 05-28-2007 12:29 AM                     And it's possible to get punitive damages.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-28-2007 09:24 PM                        Well, there's not only the actual damages. There's also damages to Brad's good name. Is the F-G name trademarked? If so, there's another violation.  |  IP: Logged

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