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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene

Posts: 1836
From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 06-03-2007 04:57 AM

If I recall correctly, Film-Guard is both Patented and Trademarked.

There is a website called Legalzoom.com. For a much smaller fee than an actual lawyer, they will construct a strong cease and desist order for pennies on the dollar. For patent and trademark infringement it may only cost you a few hundred dollars to have the paperwork drawn up and served.

The website is designed and maintained by top lawyers in nearly every field. I used it myself to get my website domain name away from its owner just by issuing a similar order. It only cost me 120 dollars for that. I would look into it..

LegalZoom.com

check it out.

Ciao

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 06-03-2007 01:23 PM

Guys, the money isn't the main issue at this point. It's the fact that Ron Purtee is a scam artist and screwed MANY MANY people in this industry from the manufacturers right down to his customers who were given inferior and often damaging goods.

Any company that has any sort of ties with this man should not be supported in the slightest, unless you back that sort of business practice.

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Jeremy Weigel
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1062
From: Edmond, OK, USA
Registered: Mar 2007

posted 06-03-2007 09:53 PM

The only way to stop his activities is for someone to take legal action. The longer you wait and allow him to use your trademark the less likely you will be able to prevail in court.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 06-03-2007 09:59 PM

Newsflash guys...CPI is out of business!

The only purpose of this thread in regards to Ron Purtee is to warn others for if/when he fires up a new company. And yes if in a new venture he sells FilmGuard or any sort of knockoff, I will attack. So everyone please save the legal advice because his company has already gone bankrupt. [Roll Eyes]

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Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1712
From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 06-07-2007 10:47 PM

Paul Van Ness and Bill Collins of Cinema Salem LLC Have honored thier agreement to me, have acted like gentlemen and are good people to deal with.

[ 06-08-2007, 09:40 PM: Message edited by: Sean McKinnon ]

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Joshua Waaland
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cleveland, Ohio
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 06-11-2007 03:49 PM

Here is a new name for the deadbeats list, Peter Lea. Peter only ever posts to the for sale forum here on Film-Tech. He posted a listing in February for Dolby SRA-5's. I purchased one and sent him payment. He requested payment by bank which made me skeptical but I got him confused with Peter Hall who is a regular on Film-Tech so I sent the money.

To make a very long story short, he has claimed to send the unit twice and I have never recieved anything. I double checked my shipping address with him and he claims he has it right. Everytime I contact him he takes weeks to respond. He has never sent me trackings numbers when I have asked numerous times. I have contacted the shipping companies he claims to have shipped my packages by and they never have a record of ANY packages leaving his zip code and coming to mine. It has been well over four months since I sent him payment for this. I e-mailed him over a week ago and have still not heard back again. Sometimes I don't hear from him for 3-4 weeks, then he claims to have been on holiday or had knee surgery. [Roll Eyes]

[ 06-11-2007, 11:55 PM: Message edited by: Joshua Waaland ]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99

posted 06-11-2007 08:12 PM

Perhaps one of the other Brits herre on F-T could render you some assistance and pay this guy a visit. If he sent it they can give hm the tracking number. Also if all customs papers are not properly filled out it may have been abandoned.

Ahh, but things can go wrong in the opposite direction too. I also had a similar and unusual problem but in making a payment overseas. I sent a payment twice but they never received it... and indeed the Bank Checks never cleared. My bank has yet to cancel them and credit my account so I have double what I was supposed to pay for an item out and neither they nor I have the $$ as of this day. Of course they didn't believe me when I told them I sent it.... but when I attempted to do a wire transfer of the funds to a well known F-T member in the same country so he could pay them for me the wire transfer did not go through because the New York branch of that bank had closed. I scanned and e-mailed him my bank papers that were rejected and he could indeed see that I had attempted to pay for the item for the third time!! I gave up after that and figured if I ever meet him in person I will be all to happy to hand him the cash.

Mark

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Joshua Waaland
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cleveland, Ohio
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 06-11-2007 11:54 PM

He told me he got the money. That is why he supposedly sent the package.

I think he is just another one of those dealers who is up to his eyeballs in work and makes up stories to put you off. We have a salesman like that at work. They procrastinate until you get angry and make them do something about it. I think deep down they don't mean to be scamming you but they just aren't people of their word. These are the kind of guys that need money to motivate them. Unfortunately, once they have the cash they have no motivation to hold up their end of the deal and just keep making excuses.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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posted 06-28-2007 04:57 PM

I would like to add to the the Deadbeat list....

Pinedale Entertainment Center
153 S. Entertainment Lane
Pinedale, WY. 82941
Owner Bill Kellen

They are out 4 months now for a total of $2965.94 for booth maintainance and masking repairs. Also failure to return a loaner lens which is included in the above total.

Payment of this outstanding bill will also be acknowledged in this thread should we ever receive payment.

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Louis Bornwasser
Film God

Posts: 4441
From: prospect ky usa
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 07-09-2007 11:32 AM

I would like to add to the deadbeat list:

Rodney Hughley
Cinema-Tech
Lexington, KY

$24,000 owed as of Jan 2007. I do not know his new company name or address. Beware of Lexington, KY based operations selling parts, service or materials.

Should we ever collect, I will acknowledge it here.

Louis Bornwasser
Hadden Theatre Supply Co
Louisville, KY

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Joshua Waaland
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 800
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 08-13-2007 06:30 AM

An update to the deal I had with Peter Lea. I found a webpage for the police in the UK and sent them an e-mail. It took a while but I tracked down his local Bobby and they visited him. That got his attention. He e-mailed back and said he was alarmed to have the police visit him. He actually tried to get upset with me and I told him if he hadn't came up missing for months on end this never would have happened. From February to August is plenty of time to get me my money back or the item. No excuses!

I got my money back but he shorted me a little from what I paid him. When you figure in the $30 my bank charged me to make the transfer, the $15 they charged me to get the transfer back and the difference he shorted me I am still out almost $68 US. I have learned my lesson. Never make a bank transfer and never deal with Peter Lea.

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Robert W. Jones
Film Handler

Posts: 74
From: San Antonio, TX
Registered: Mar 2007

posted 11-17-2007 04:47 PM

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#1 Ron Purtee and company at Cinema Products International (CPI). Is there any manufacuter this company hasn't ripped off yet? These guys have the lowest morals I've ever seen, right down to bottling up Wal-Mart automotive oil in containers labeled "Century oil", etc. They also have a knock-off product to FilmGuard that they concocted in under 2 weeks after I booted them from being a dealer for failure to not pay their bills. The product is known to damage film over the long haul (meaning a print you use it on today may end up getting you a bill for the cost of the print down the road when that print gets rented out to another theater). What's really sad is they will sell it to you as "FilmGuard" and claim it is the exact same ingredients, then I get the call from the theater panicked and angry about the product that damaged their film because they think it is mine, but upon closer evaluation of the bottle and seller, it is NOT actual FilmGuard. It doesn't take a chemist to figure out that they are not the same product by a long shot.

I had a bottle of the "CPI Film Cleaner" a few years ago. Obtained it from a friend who was provided samples. I cleaned an old trailer with it just to see. No longer have it though.

I contacted CPI (Summer '04???) and asked Ron if it was safe for use with Mag Striped prints. He said he didn't know.

Wasn't Filmguard! 16oz spray bottle with a totally clear liquid substance. It did clean bugs off of the headlights and grill of my truck though.

I suspect he's back in business on eBay or elsewhere under a new Company name or moniker.

Rob

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 11-17-2007 09:01 PM

FilmGuard has never been distributed in any size bottle other than 32oz. The color is not clear, but amber.

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Sam D. Chavez
Film God

Posts: 2153
From: Martinez, CA USA
Registered: Aug 2003

posted 01-25-2008 12:17 AM

It is with some regret that I add Cliff Anderson of Independent Theatre Supply of Texas.

He has owed BACP over $5,000 since 2005 for Christie readers used in his own cinema in San Antonio.

He had no stated complaint, but used every excuse in the book to avoid paying (his wife lost the invoice, etc...) and is the first account I've ever sent to collection.

I hereby nominate him for the 2008 Purte Award for most and least convincing lies.

He sells on E-Bay. Beware!

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Louis Bornwasser
Film God

Posts: 4441
From: prospect ky usa
Registered: Mar 2005

posted 01-25-2008 10:07 AM

Sam: I second his nomination! Cliff Anderson's balance with us is $31,061.11 as of Jan 2007. No payments since 2003 or 2004. Louis

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