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Ari Leedsw
Film Handler

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From: Stoughton, MA
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 - posted 02-22-2016 09:32 AM      Profile for Ari Leedsw   Email Ari Leedsw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for that imput, Carsten:

One thing I'd like to point out is that this hasn't been Quentin's first non-DI, as that was standard before the mid-2000s.

The ratio of DI:Photochemical cut neg. reached parity around 2005, I think.

You can tell from the credits that it's cut neg. because there are credited negative cutters, and I think the credit was flatbed editor something like that.

They specifically mentioned and specified editing being done with worprints, and I think there was a credit for dailies and workprint printing as well.

I'm pretty sure they took the master positive and scanned that for the DCI. Well over 4K on 70mm, so no problems or quality loss there, and substantially-easier, practically non-existent color correction when you are scanning a timed positive.

@Tyler Purcell: MY understanding is that the only digital was added in. Film scanned in, manipulated, lasered back out onto film, then cut into the non-digital original camera negatives in A and B rolls.

Agreed, "Nolan approach."

Anyone else notice the negative scratch on a few frames (sloppy, sloppy, sloppy! ;-) ) and the camera timing misalignment on the fire?

I thought it was on the print at first, but then I noticed the slight projector weave was the opposite of that shot.

As to analog sound, yeah, looks like the infrastructure has crumbled. What a shame they couldn't have done a proper analog stereo track.

To be honest, digital sound has gotten so good, the difference has really been lost, i.e., not night and day like film and digital.

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Stephan Shelley
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 - posted 03-16-2016 07:45 PM      Profile for Stephan Shelley   Email Stephan Shelley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Grand Lake's print is being picked up this week. Looks like Film-Tech Cinema Systems is going to warehouse the prints.

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Mark Lensenmayer
Phenomenal Film Handler

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 - posted 03-18-2016 09:27 AM      Profile for Mark Lensenmayer   Email Mark Lensenmayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ad in New York Times 3/18/16 regarding HATEFUL EIGHT:

"The spectacular 70mm Roadshow Version is back in Theaters for an exclusive one-week engagement."

At the bottom of the ad, it says:

"Presented in Digital Projection in New York, Los Angeles and Kansas City".

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Brad Miller
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Mark, can you get a scan of that ad?

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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 - posted 03-18-2016 12:22 PM      Profile for Mitchell Dvoskin   Email Mitchell Dvoskin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The Village East Cinema ran H8 in 70mm last winter. Now, according to their web site, they are running the Digital Roadshow version.

Village East Cinemas

As the above now playing link will not be meaningful for long:

quote: City Cinemas

Golden Globe winner – Best Original Score

About

Some time after the Civil War, a stagecoach hurtles through the wintry Wyoming landscape. The passengers, bounty hunter John Ruth (Kurt Russell) and his fugitive Daisy Domergue (Jennifer Jason Leigh), race towards the town of Red Rock where Ruth will bring Domergue to justice. Also starring Samuel L. Jackson, Tim Roth, Demian Bichir, Walter Goggins, Michael Madsen, and Bruce Dern.

The Digital Roadshow engagement of THE HATEFUL EIGHT recreates the grand film exhibition style popularized 1950s and ‘60s and that brought audiences to theaters with the promise of a special event. Filmed in Ultra Panavision 70, filmmaker Quentin Tarantino and his team shot this epic using unique anamorphic camera lenses and 70mm film in an incredible aspect ratio of 2.76:1.

Directed By
Quentin Tarantino

Written By
Quentin Tarantino

Cast
Samuel L. Jackson, Kurt Russell, Jennifer Jason Leigh


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Mark Lensenmayer
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Here is the ad from the New York Times, March 18, 2016, Page C9

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Martin McCaffery
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 - posted 03-18-2016 04:25 PM      Profile for Martin McCaffery   Author's Homepage   Email Martin McCaffery   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Love the asterisk [Wink]

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Paul Linfesty
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Yeah, it also opened today at the Edwards Cinemas here in Bakersfield, CA.

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Joe Redifer
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Kansas City? That seems to random.

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Buck Wilson
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 - posted 03-19-2016 11:48 AM      Profile for Buck Wilson   Email Buck Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well that's misleading as fuck.

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David Buckley
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quote: Martin McCaffery
Love the asterisk
Took me some time to find that asterisk, for the most time I just thought it was a scan artifact!

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Tyler Purcell
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 - posted 03-20-2016 01:23 AM      Profile for Tyler Purcell   Author's Homepage   Email Tyler Purcell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yep, welcome to the digital age.

Even if you purposely make a movie on film and distribute it that way, somehow digital will mess it up. LOL

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Jim Cassedy
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I've always said: "Sooner or later, EVERYTHING shows up on e-bay";
so, keeping that in mind- - check out this listing I spotted online:
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. . . and you know they're authentic, because the description says:
"All film cell are genuine-authentic, actually used in movie theatres.
Some film cells may have run lines, scratches, mild abrasions, colour
fade and sometimes even traces of lubricant from a film projector"


Oh, Geez! [Roll Eyes]

Just for fun, I did some math:
A 70mm print of "Hateful 8" contains 240,480frames.(not counting the
intermission. (who would want to buy abuncha blank/black frames?)

If this guy cuts a print into 3 frame clips like in the photo above, and
sells them all, he could potentially make over $80,000. But I seriously
doubt he'll sell more than few of these - - - - if any at all.

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Steve Kraus
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Black frames would be useful as leader provided the DTS track doesn't confuse matters. Maybe flip it.

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Terry Monohan
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 - posted 05-14-2016 08:50 PM      Profile for Terry Monohan   Email Terry Monohan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The DVD Blue Ray version came out a few weeks ago and looks ok. I hear later on they will release the 70mm roadshow version to Blue Ray DVD with overture, intermission ect and extra footage. Will It look any better on Blue Ray then the copy I have? Did they make the current H8 DVD from the 70mm print or will they wait for the more expensive roadshow version?

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