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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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I'm not surprised that the equipment is still there. However I am surprised that the print is still there. [Smile]

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David J Hilsgen
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How many 70 prints are still running?

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John Wilson
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Mine is...but we only opened it January 14th here.

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Scott Norwood
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Unless anyone has picked it up since the initial release, the US seems to be down to twelve 70mm venues:

AFI Silver Theatre
Alamo Drafthouse Ritz
ArcLight Hollywood 15
ArcLight La Jolla 14
Arclight Sherman Oaks
Grand Lakes 4
Hollywood Theatre
Ronnie's 20
Somerville 5
The Landmark
Tower Theatre 3
Village East Cinemas 7

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Jim Cassedy
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I've heard rumors from three different sources (one usually pretty reliable)
that the 70mm HF-8 might make a short return to some venues if it wins
one, or all three, of the Academy Awards it was nominated for.

I know the print and projector are still just sitting at the theater I was
assigned to, and I got an inquisitive e-mail the other day asking about
my availability. But, as I said, at this point it seems to be just a rumor.

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Stephan Shelley
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Grand Lake is still running its 70mm print. 3 weeks screen two, 2 weeks screen one and now back to screen 2.

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Scott Norwood
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Based on online showtime listings, it appears that this is down to 8-10 theatres in the US as of tomorrow:

AFI Silver Theatre
ArcLight Hollywood 15
ArcLight La Jolla 14
Hollywood Theatre
Ronnie's 20
Somerville 5
Tower Theatre 3
Village East Cinemas 7

H8 is also listed as playing at the Alamo Drafthouse Ritz and The Landmark (both previously 70mm locations), but neither specifically lists it as being 70mm.

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Stephan Shelley
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At the Grand Lake H8 moves to screen 4 which is digital only. It will be the standard digital version without intermission. We are keeping the print for a few week incase we will show it again in 70mm.

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Leo Enticknap
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I played print #52 at the Aero, Santa Monica last night, and it appeared to be a new and unused copy. No trace of any fingerprints or as much as a spec of dust anywhere on it, and the heads and tails were all uncut. Whoever scribed the changeover cues onto it must have been wearing gloves, as must anyone who projected it before, if it has been.

I wonder if they ended up striking more prints than were needed for the initial run, with the result that we got a virgin one that was left over. In any case, it looked and sounded great.

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Bill Brandenstein
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Not 70mm, of course, but Tarantino now has brought his flick home to roost at the New Beverly Cinema, where it's playing all month in various combinations of double features and a few single shows in the evening, and the "multiplex version" at some midnight screenings. So that means there's 35mm available in both the roadshow and conventional versions.

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Rachael Barbash
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We're entering our 4th week with the print at Gateway Film Center in Columbus.

Something new happened last night. Around reel 8 the DTS reader on the projector stopped reading so we lost sound. Our tech came in this morning and adjusted the roller above the projector head. His thought was that the angle was bad going by the DTS therefore it couldn't read it.

Since then we haven't lost sound but I have noticed that the DTS's green light will flash sometimes, making me think the sound will go out again, but so far it always comes back on. Do you think this is again caused by a bad angle? Dirty film?...

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Paul Mayer
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Funny story going around about how the guitar smashed in the second half of the film turned out to be a priceless 145-year-old Martin, on loan from the Martin factory to the movie production. It was supposed to be swapped out with a replica for the smash, except no one told Kurt Russell about that. Others claim Tarantino set up the smash on purpose in order to get the genuine reaction he got out Jennifer Jason Leigh in that scene.

Here's the article:

quote:

Martin Responds to “Hateful Eight” Destruction of Antique Six String

Feb 04, 2016 by Chris McMahon

Reverb’s story “The Hateful Eight” Hates on Six Strings” contains information about the destruction of the priceless 145-years-old instrument that Dick Boak, director of the museum, archives and special projects for C.F. Martin & Co., says the company was not previously aware of.

In the film, John Ruth, played by Kurt Russell, grabs a guitar from Daisy Domergue, played by Jennifer Jason Leigh, and smashes it, eliciting horror. However, the smashed guitar was an authentic Martin from the 1870s, on loan from the Martin Guitar Museum, rather than one of several copies on hand for the shoot.

“We were informed that it was an accident on set,” Boak says. “We assumed that a scaffolding or something fell on it. We understand that things happen, but at the same time we can’t take this lightly. All this about the guitar being smashed being written into the script and that somebody just didn’t tell the actor, this is all new information to us. We didn’t know anything about the script or Kurt Russell not being told that it was a priceless, irreplaceable artifact from the Martin Museum.”

According to the film’s Academy Award-winning sound mixer Mark Ulano, as quoted in SSNInsider.com, the scene was to be shot up to a certain point, a cut made, the guitar swapped out for a double and for the double to be smashed. “Well, somehow that didn’t get communicated to Kurt, so when you see that happen on the frame, Jennifer’s reaction is genuine,” Ulano said, as quoted in SSNInsider.com.

As a result of the incident, the company will no longer loan guitars to movies under any circumstances.”

Further, Boak says that Martin did not offer a replacement, as stated in the SSNInsider.com. "As a result of the incident, the company will no longer loan guitars to movies under any circumstances,” Boak says.

To add insult to injury, Boak says the guitar was insured for its purchase price, which doesn’t reflect its value as an irreplaceable museum artifact. Boak also says that Martin requested that the pieces be returned for a possible restoration, not for inclusion in the Martin Museum as stated in SSNInsider.com. “Upon inspection of the pieces, we realized that the guitar was beyond fixing,” Boak said. “It’s destroyed.”

“We want to make sure that people know that the incident was very distressing to us,” Boak says. “We can’t believe that it happened. I don’t think anything can really remedy this. We’ve been remunerated for the insurance value, but it’s not about the money. It’s about the preservation of American musical history and heritage.”

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Link to original Reverb story:

“The Hateful Eight” Hates on Six Strings: Film Includes Real Destruction of Antique Martin

Feb 02, 2016 by Chris McMahon

Amidst all the violence in Quentin Tarantino’s latest film “The Hateful Eight” is the scene in which John Ruth, played by Kurt Russell, grabs a guitar from Daisy Domergue, played by Jennifer Jason Leigh, and smashes it, eliciting horror.

“What was supposed to happen was we were supposed to go up to that point, cut and trade guitars and smash the double,” explains the film’s Academy Award-winning sound mixer Mark Ulano, as quoted in SSNInsider.com. “Well, somehow that didn’t get communicated to Kurt, so when you see that happen on the frame, Jennifer’s reaction is genuine.”

The victim was an authentic Martin from the 1870s, on loan from the Martin Guitar Museum, Ulano said, and everyone was pretty freaked out when they realized what happened. “Tarantino was in a corner of the room with a funny curl on his lips, because he got something out of it with the performance,” Ulano added.

Martin Museum representatives asked only two questions when informed about the destruction of the loaner, according to SSNInsider.com: “Do you need another one?" And "Can we please have all the pieces to display in our museum?”

“The Hateful Eight” is set in the years just after the American Civil War, which ran from 1861 to 1865. While the film earns points for authenticity in terms of the guitar, the song played by Domergue is the traditional Australian folk ballad "Jim Jones at Botany Bay," which was published in 1907, almost four decades after when the film was set.


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Brad Miller
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Rachael, all of the reel 8s have a little bit of timecode flickering. I think you probably just didn't notice at 2+ hours into the film.

As long as you have a blip of timecode readability every 8 seconds or so, it will run fine.

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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Paul Mayer
Funny story going around about how the guitar smashed in the second half of the film turned out to be a priceless 145-year-old Martin, on loan from the Martin factory to the movie production.
Jennifer Jason Leigh did a Q & A after the Aero screening I officiated at yesterday evening at the Aero. She said that she rehearsed a scene with the guitar many times, coveted it and was prepared to buy it as a souvenir of her role in the production, and was devastated when it got smashed.

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Brad Miller
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My schedule has been quite busy as of late, but here they are...finally.

Once the Weinstein systems were dropped into place by BLSI, Dan Lyons and myself went into all of the Texas sites and made adjustments and improvements to the systems as needed. We then handled training and staffing by a great group of projectionists.

The 7 sites Film-Tech oversaw:

Cinemark West Plano (Plano, TX)
Lead operator: Emma Tomiak
Backup operator: Dan Lyons

AMC Gulf Pointe (Houston, TX)
Lead operator: Bill Martin
Backup operator: Aaron Sisemore

Edwards Greenway (Houston, TX)
Lead operator: Eric Richard
Backup operators: Tyler Mann, Aaron Sisemore

Santikos Palladium (San Antonio, TX)
Lead operator: Paul Hemme
Backup operators: Tim Walls, Manny Knowles, Tyler Mann

Cinemark Pflugerville (Pflugerville, TX)
Lead operator: Jonathan Froes (ended up running all shows)
Backup operator: Tyler Mann

AMC Parks (Arlington, TX)
Lead operator: Jeremy Spracklen (ended up running all shows)
Backup operators: Brad Miller, Dan Lyons

AMC Northpark (Dallas, TX)
Lead operator: Brad Miller
Backup operator: Dan Lyons

Photos from the 70mm Hateful Eight engagements from the Film-Tech group

Also...

70mm Hateful Eight at the AMC Parks video

If anyone has photos or videos from any of the other theaters that ran Hateful Eight in 70mm (even if they were not on Weinstein equipment), please consider sending them in to me so I can add them to the archive here to preserve for the future. (This archive will be around essentially forever. Websites such as Instagram and Facebook are not archival.)

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