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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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posted 10-17-2007 07:58 PM

According to IMBD, Journey 3D isn't supposed to be released until the Summer of 2008. Outside of that title, I can't think of anything else that's supposed to be released in 3D during 2008.

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Darryl Spicer
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posted 10-18-2007 12:03 PM

It's a scary thought but at least it's only a week. Here is what looks to be the first 3-D release for 2008. This was also announced on our local news today.

Hannah Montana Concert in 3-D

"Hannah Montana" fans everywhere will have a chance to see their favorite singer, songwriter and actress, Miley Cyrus, perform her sold-out "Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds Concert Tour" on the big screen for one-week only with a special Disney Digital 3D presentation coming exclusively to movie theaters in the US and Canada from February 1-7 2008, it was announced today by Dick Cook, chairman of The Walt Disney Studios. The film will also open in several international markets in spring '08 which include UK, Australia, New Zealand, German speaking Europe, Latin America and other selected Asian and European territories.

This filmed version of the concert tour will be shot in state-of-the-art 3D at several venues during the upcoming 54-city tour, which begins in St. Louis on October 18th with Cyrus's special guest, Jonas Brothers. The film is directed by Bruce Hendricks (ESPN'S "Ultimate X: The Movie") and produced by Art Repola (ESPN'S "Ultimate X: The Movie") from the concert tour created and directed by Kenny Ortega ("High School Musical"). Cyrus, the 14-year old singing sensation and star of Disney Channel's hit series, will perform as both a solo artist and as her hugely popular television character, Hannah Montana. The series is currently in its second smash season, and has attracted legions of fans all over the world.

Commenting on the announcement, Cook said, "Miley is one of the most exciting and talented performers of her generation and watching her on the concert stage is a genuine thrill. As soon as she committed to the Best of Both Worlds tour last winter, we wanted to find some special way to let all of her fans share the excitement and fun of this live event, and filming the concert in 3D seemed like an ideal way to do that. This is going to be an exciting 3D motion picture event experience for everyone who loves 'Hannah Montana.'"

Bob Cavallo, chairman, Disney Music Group, added, "Miley Cyrus continues to be one of today's most popular performers as the recent #1 debut of her 2-CD set, Hannah Montana 2/Meet Miley Cyrus, on the July Billboard Top 200 Chart demonstrates. She is a fantastic live performer and this film is a great way to see her doing what she does best."

Rich Ross, president, Disney Channel Worldwide, said, "The success of 'Hannah Montana' on Disney Channel and our broadcast partners worldwide is nothing short of sensational and we're so proud that the characters, the stories, the music and our stars have connected so strongly to kids and families everywhere."

"Hannah Montana" is seen on Disney Channels all over the world and on DisneyChannel.com via streaming broadband video. 2007-to-date and for 2006, it was the #1 series on basic cable in the U.S. among Kids 6-11 and Tweens and, across all television, was second only to "American Idol" in those key youth demographics. It is also seen Saturday mornings on the ABC Television Network's "ABC Kids" programming block.

In October 2006, the Hannah Montana soundtrack became the first ever TV soundtrack to debut at #1 on the Billboard Top 200, and turned Miley into a multi-platinum recording artist. Her latest CD, Hannah Montana 2/Meet Miley Cyrus, was released on July 24th, and scanned over 325,000 units in its first week, to become the top selling album in the U.S.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 10-18-2007 01:53 PM

quote: Darryl Spicer
"Hannah Montana" fans everywhere will have a chance to see their favorite singer, songwriter and actress, Miley Cyrus, perform her sold-out "Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds Concert Tour" on the big screen for one-week only with a special Disney Digital 3D presentation

I guess this is how Disney intends to make good to Hannah Montana fans after scalpers completely hijacked the tickets for the tour's live shows.

Oh. Did I say "scalpers?" I'm sorry, I meant to say the politically correct term: "online ticket broker companies."

Scalping is scalping. Those bastards are ruining a lot of good concerts with hyper inflated re-sell prices. I hope that fans of Miley Cyrus and lots of other performers revolt against this kind of bullshit. I hope they revolt by refusing to buy those high priced tickets and also revolt by contacting their various political representatives and district attorneys offices. Ticket scalping is still illegal in many states but those organized online-based businesses are using little tricks to get around the law and screw over music fans anyway.

Those stratospheric Hannah Montana ticket prices might make things interesting in how the audience is made up during the 3D filming/taping of the concert. If it's a bunch of snooty rich kids and shi shi parents in the crowd things aren't going to be very lively. "Blue collar" class audiences definitely have a lot more energy.

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 10-18-2007 06:34 PM

The telling words in that story are:

quote: Darryl Spicer
for one-week only

Disney is smart enough to know that they'll do kickass business with the fans for one week and that'll be it. If they left it open-ended, week 2 would surely be about a 75% letdown.

This is another example of something that has zero need to be in 3-D.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 10-19-2007 12:07 PM

Mike...

There is zero need period for alot of the films that are churned out of Disney every year.

Mark

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Monte L Fullmer
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posted 10-20-2007 02:09 PM

An interesting thought here: could someone pull this off by building a new DISCOUNT (2 buck) theatre complex in decent size metropolitan area with a 10+ number of screens, small seat houses and go all digital?

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 10-20-2007 04:36 PM

I don't know if an independent theater could manage it. The theater operator would need to be part of a larger group of buyers to get a good deal.

It appears that perhaps a handful of Carmike's 2nd run locations may have digital projection systems installed. They already have a number of bargain 1st run locations digital equipped.

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Ron Curran
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From: Springwood NSW Australia
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posted 10-29-2007 08:19 PM

More and more individuals are making movies with electronic gear then trying to distribute them commercially.

Some of these features were intended for broadcast television and, on completion, their producers were encouraged to distribute theatrically first.

Our cinema is approached every week by different producers with an electronic feature they want to show at our cinema. Some want to hire the cinema to exhibit their work commercially.

We are averaging about one of these hard drive feature a month. It is doubtful that any of these producers will be able to afford dci-compliiant transfers.

In Australia, many cinemas have equipped for E-cinema, many of those, like us, have upgraded to 2K servers, necessary to accept the latest files. The vast majority of features are distributed only on 35mm film while a few features are available on hard drive and film. Smaller distributors are actively promoting e-cinema to widen distribution.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 10-29-2007 08:36 PM

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It is doubtful that any of these producers will be able to afford dci-compliant transfers.

Give it time. I figure the 2K DCI format (and perhaps 4K as well) will be available in a number of "off the shelf" video editing applications (Apple's Final Cut Pro, Avid, Adobe, etc).

As to whether video cameras can actually shoot natively in the format is another matter. But I wouldn't mind being able to native encode DCI format motion graphics material directly within Adobe After Effects. I can already design for any pixel dimensions I choose from within AE.

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Frank Angel
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posted 10-31-2007 02:15 AM

Are all DCinema virtual prints distributed only on hard drives deliverd to the theatre manually? Or are some coming down via Fios or satelite, which was the wet-dream a few years ago when they were talking about how digital "prints" would get to the theatres? Are there hot-swap ports where the hard drives can just plug in to be "ingested"? Or does the server just play the datastream right from the hard drive?

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Monte L Fullmer
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posted 10-31-2007 02:21 AM

HDD sends that gets transferred to the server's HDD with a USB key sent later on to unlock the information for playback.

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Stephen Furley
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posted 10-31-2007 03:02 AM

The keys can be sent by various means; most of ours so far have been on the hard disk, along with the film itself. They can also be sent on a USB key, e-mail attachment or directly onto the server via the Internet, if it has a connection, which the DSN ones do, I don't know about others.

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David Zylstra
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From: Novi, MI, USA
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posted 10-31-2007 11:54 AM

quote: Frank Angel
Are all DCinema virtual prints distributed only on hard drives deliverd to the theatre manually? Or are some coming down via Fios or satelite, which was the wet-dream a few years ago when they were talking about how digital "prints" would get to the theatres? Are there hot-swap ports where the hard drives can just plug in to be "ingested"? Or does the server just play the datastream right from the hard drive?

We have an AccessIT "solution" and currently films that AccessIT distributes are sometimes sent via satellite, all others are coming via HD and get "ingested" into the TMS(Theatre Management Server, AKA LMS from Access) - from there the films are transferred to the screen servers . . . . . ingestion for the Access LMS are done via USB only (the DoReMi can also be ingested directly via USB if needed).

I beleive the Dolby can do both USB and HD caddy insertion for ingestion as well as potentially play back from the content drive (but it's not recommended to play back from your only "master" copy).

KDMs come in via various means - some over the satellite, some by modem, some via email and some by USB thumbdrive.

I know TDC has a similar satellite distribution to Access so they could be sending their content via satellite too.

Just think - with DCinema you could end up with 5 satellites on your roof: 1 for AccessIT, 1 for Deluxe, 1 for TDC, 1 for NCM/Screenvision, 1 for alternate content (i.e. Dish, DirectTV, etc).

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Stephen Furley
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posted 10-31-2007 01:34 PM

Something I have noticed is the extreme variation in the validity of the keys we have received. For example, 'La Vie en Rose' was valid only on the days we had it booked, I don't think we could even check it on the day before, 'Wizard of Oz' for about three months, and 'This is England' for about thirty years!

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Phil Ranucci
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posted 10-31-2007 11:44 PM

That's because there will always be an England! Or at least for another 30 years.

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