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Author Topic: I HATE getting stiffed!! (Tips that is!) Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 11-17-2004 06:42 PM                     I think Richard cares, but I could be wrong.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 11-17-2004 06:46 PM                       Talkin' about someone who'd spit in a pizza, Jeremy... are you're suggesting that he would?  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 11-17-2004 06:56 PM                     Richard probably wouldnt, but if he did, I'm sure we'd be the first to hear about it.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-18-2004 12:14 PM                     This came in over the Associated Press today. Pizza Drivers Seek National Union Nashville, Tenn. - A fledgling national union for pizza drivers is demanding better wages and training, saying the large chains have been taking advantage of them for years. Its an effort that has atracted the attention of the Teamsters union, but the Association of Pizza Delivery Drivers, based in Hendersonville, has yet to organize its first shop. A vote at a Domino's franchise in Lincoln, Neb., failed Tuesday night on a tie. But organizers expect a better result next week when Pizza Hut drivers vote at a store near Columbus, Ohio. Tim Lockwood, treasurer of the pizza delivery union, said getting the first vote itself was a huge victory as the union started just a couple of years ago with a few drivers in a Internet chat room commiserating about unfair working conditions. About 600 drivers nationwide have signed up for the free union, and he feels momentum gathering for more unionization votes. Lockwood said pizza drivers make $5.50 to $6 an hour, plus tips, and are reimbursed 50 to 75 cents per delivery-no matter how far it is. Even worse, he said, pizza delivery is annually ranked among the most dangerous professions. "A lighted pizza sign on a car in a bad area says, "Look at me --I've got food, I've got cash and I'm unarmed," he said http://www.pizzadeliverydrivers.org/  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-18-2004 03:22 PM                     quote: Tim Reed The logistics of it aren't the customer's problem. The pizza place offers delivery -- with no conditions. Mitchell's right, we have all been slowly brainwashed into accepting free tips as the societal norm (i.e., tipping for someone just showing up, or otherwise doing their job). I distinctly remember when this wasn't the case. This is to assume some kind of injustice is being done with people having to tip pizza delivery people and/or pay delivery charges. It would only be an injustice if the pizza delivery guy used a company vehicle, with company paid gas, company paid insurance and company paid upkeep on said vehicle. Also, let's not forget, the pizza delivery guy has to at least be getting paid minimum wage as well. Not that arrangement where he makes $2 an hour based on the idea he's getting paid in tips. Really, this whole discussion targeting pizza delivery guys is a little bit strange. If any of us want to bitch about people getting paid too much money, why not put the crosshairs on all those lawyers, insurance company executives, pharmaceutical industry guys, etc.? There's a bunch of guys in those fields getting paid thousands of dollars a day (with a lot of it being our tax dollars) for little more than yakking on a cellphone in between holes on the golf course. [ 11-20-2004, 07:08 PM: Message edited by: Bobby Henderson ]  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-18-2004 05:34 PM                        A friend of mine who has delivered pizza for more than 10 years at Pizza Hut does not put any delivery signs on his car for the very reason of being targeted (plus they just look lame). In fact, I rarely see signs on Pizza Hut cars anymore when they deliver to me. Go Pizza Hut! I don't know why pizza companies would want to have their name affixed to some old run-down beater that pizza delivery guys usually own.  |  IP: Logged Rachel Craven Madam Moderator Posts: 2190 From: Pensacola, FL Registered: Dec 2000 posted 11-18-2004 11:56 PM                     Probably so the customer knows its the pizza guy pulling up and knocking at your door not some psycho... But then again, theres nothing to say a pizza guy can't be psycho.  |  IP: Logged Dave Williams Wet nipple scene Posts: 1836 From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 11-19-2004 12:44 AM                        As far as tipping goes, I work for a large multinational multibillion dollar company (company policy prevents me from revealing who I work for, some stupid confidentiality and security thingy) that would EXPECT me to tip well, especially since I pay for my meals with thier product! Can't have one of thier own bieng a total cheap ass cheapskate now can they now! However I tip well regardless of whom I work for, how much I make, or what multibillion dollar company card I carry. In fact, I tip well when my finances are shot to hell. So be a good person, treat all with dignity, and tip the hell out of your pocketbook! Unless of course they suck the ass right out of your day, then forget it! Ciao baby... Dave  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 11-19-2004 01:14 AM                        Well, Rachel, if they ordered the pizza, it might be in their best interest to actually expect it to arrive.  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-19-2004 02:39 AM                        quote: "Look at me --I've got food, I've got cash and I'm unarmed," is there some law that pizza deliverers can't be armed? i'd be packing heat if i were one. carl  |  IP: Logged James Faber Film Handler Posts: 66 From: Des Moines, Iowa , USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 11-19-2004 02:51 AM                        Well, it's more of a law that says that no one can be armed, at least in a vehicle. It's unlawful to carry a concealed weapon, and unlawful to have any sort of weapon(besides a knife that is shorter than 6 inches, or some sort of bludgeoning weapon) within reach inside a vehicle. It would be nice for a pizza delivery person to just get a license, but unfortunately, that's rather hard to do, and with good reason. If I delivered pizzas, I would most definitely carry a knife with me at all times(which I usually do anyway). Richard, I would suggest getting a Buck knife, if you don't have one already. They're sharp knives, and keep their edge for quite a while, and carry a lifetime guarantee.  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-19-2004 03:57 AM                        hmm, things must have changed since the last time i was in redneck country. quote: They're sharp knives..., and carry a lifetime guarantee. whose lifetime? carl  |  IP: Logged Matthew Nock Film Handler Posts: 82 From: Bairnsdale, Victoria, Australia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 11-19-2004 04:09 AM                     quote: Carl Martin whose lifetime? The lifetime of the punk who you thrust the knife into after he tries to take your hard earned $1 tip.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 11-19-2004 07:26 AM                       quote: Bobby Henderson This is to assume some kind of injustice is being done with people having to tip pizza delivery people and/or pay delivery charges. In the respect that tipping is now expected, and if you don't, you can expect to have your product laced, yes. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to call that a form of extortion.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 11-19-2004 12:24 PM                        What strange laws they have there in Iowa. We have no such rules here. Anyone except ex-felons can get a concealed weapons permit (CCW) here as long as one can qualify with it on a gun range. Being in a vehicle doesn't matter one bit (except in the city of Henderson (of course), which does proscribe accessible weapons in cars). Alternatively you can wear a weapon as long as it's plainly visible (the old west lives on here). No permit needed for that, though you'll probably get hassled by the cops and hotel/casino security guards nowadays. If I were driving pizzas in certain parts of this town I'd definitely be packing heat of some kind. Fortunately, not having a car anymore saves me from having to worry about that.  |  IP: Logged

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