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Hillary Charles
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posted 12-15-2009 04:13 PM

Ebert actually liked the 3-D! [Eek!]

Hell must be freezing over!

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Joe Tommassello
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posted 12-15-2009 04:23 PM

Claude makes an interesting point. With all the hype about the 3D the 35mm auditoriums might suffer greatly. This would give it legs depending on how long they have the 3D screens. Perhaps someone can enlighten me?

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 12-15-2009 05:32 PM

Ebert liked the 3-D because it wasn't "in your face" 3-D. (I actually noticed that when we saw the 16-minute preview of the movie in September....after a while I sort of forgot I was watching 3-D, except for the uncomfortable glasses.)

Another thing to keep in mind is, this has a 163-minute running time or thereabouts, therefore about one fewer showings per day.

As for this:

quote: Bobby Henderson
Why are we concentrating on opening weekend gross and 2nd week percentage drop?

Because that's the way things are these days and it ain't changing. Besides, the 2nd weekend drop is the best indicator of how the "legs" are going to be...although in this case it won't be quite as good an indicator because of Christmas week falling right in there.

And, one reason Ebert has given 11 four-star ratings since October is because of all those Oscar hopeful movies coming out in that time frame. How many did he give out in June-July-August? A lot less, I'd bet. (Haven't checked.)

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John Wilson
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posted 12-15-2009 05:52 PM

quote: Mike Blakesley
And, one reason Ebert has given 11 four-star ratings since October is because of all those Oscar hopeful movies coming out in that time frame. How many did he give out in June-July-August? A lot less, I'd bet.

337.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 12-15-2009 07:10 PM

quote: Mike Blakesley
Because that's the way things are these days and it ain't changing.

Today's ADD movie business, brought to you by Ritalin™.

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Jeremy Weigel
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posted 12-15-2009 08:03 PM

We're not doing the midnight premier on this one and I haven't had anyone ask if we are. This makes me think its going to be a dud.

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Hillary Charles
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posted 12-15-2009 08:15 PM

quote: Mike Blakesley
Ebert liked the 3-D because it wasn't "in your face" 3-D. (I actually noticed that when we saw the 16-minute preview of the movie in September....after a while I sort of forgot I was watching 3-D, except for the uncomfortable glasses.)

"UP" didn't have "in your face" 3-D either, but go read Ebert's blog after he saw that one. He was still preaching against it. The 3-D in "AVATAR" must have made some impression on him.

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John Wilson
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posted 12-15-2009 08:44 PM

There was another 3D recently he liked...Cloudy maybe? Or perhaps A Christmas Carol?

Something, anyway...

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 12-15-2009 11:11 PM

He liked "Up," But he apparently saw the 2-D version first, as hinted in this quote from his review:

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The movie will be shown in 3-D in some theaters, about which I will say nothing, except to advise you to save the extra money and see it in 2-D. One of the film's qualities that is likely to be diminished by 3-D is its subtle and beautiful color palette.

About "Avatar," he didn't say he likes 3-D, but at least it didn't ruin the movie for him:

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I'm a notorious skeptic about this process, a needless distraction from the perfect realism of movies in 2-D. Cameron's iteration is the best I've seen -- and more importantly, one of the most carefully-employed. The film never uses 3-D simply because it has it, and doesn't promiscuously violate the fourth wall. He also seems quite aware of 3-D's weakness for dimming the picture, and even with a film set largely in interiors and a rain forest, there's sufficient light.

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Bill Enos
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posted 12-16-2009 11:59 AM

The TV ads I've seen have been really lack luster, nothing even remotely interesting, just some odd blue people, it's got to be better than that.

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Bill Enos
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posted 12-16-2009 02:51 PM

Just came back from lunch at McD. Looked at the Avatar poster, the blue faces are basically cat faces, similar faces have been used hundreds of times.

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Joe Tommassello
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posted 12-16-2009 03:18 PM

Bill - What's the McDonalds angle? They have an Avatar toy for the kid's meal or a blue shake or something?

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 12-16-2009 08:57 PM

Boxoffice is predicting $75 million this weekend for Avatar.

I'm surprised Fox didn't move the release date up to Wednesday.

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John Wilson
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posted 12-16-2009 11:42 PM

Just walked in to see the 1315 session coming out through the foyer...scenes more reminiscent of a Saturday night crowd than 1315 on a Thursday afternoon.

Big... [thumbsup]

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Hillary Charles
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posted 12-17-2009 05:32 AM

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About "Avatar," he didn't say he likes 3-D, but at least it didn't ruin the movie for him:

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I'm a notorious skeptic about this process, a needless distraction from the perfect realism of movies in 2-D. Cameron's iteration is the best I've seen -- and more importantly, one of the most carefully-employed. The film never uses 3-D simply because it has it, and doesn't promiscuously violate the fourth wall. He also seems quite aware of 3-D's weakness for dimming the picture, and even with a film set largely in interiors and a rain forest, there's sufficient light.
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Coming from him, and his notorious hatred of 3-D, that is tantamount to (face-saving) praise! As with is UP review (and I never said he didn't like UP, just he hates the 3-D), he has ALWAYS said that 3-D is an unnecessary distraction and makes movies less realistic, etc. After reading so many such diatribes from him in the past, his AVATAR review totally surprised me. I expected more of the same. Because there wasn't, it struck me as a very positive sign.

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