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James Westbrook
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 - posted 06-25-2010 01:42 PM      Profile for James Westbrook   Email James Westbrook   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Wow.
Uhhhh...
Let's just say the movie would have been quite different had the mechanical shark functioned properly and we should be thankful it didn't.
*leaves the contentious room*

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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 - posted 06-25-2010 08:07 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Michael Coate
When I post a correction it is an attempt to set the record straight. It is you who is hung up on this notion that I'm on a crusade to somehow embarrass people with a correction.

I have to jump in here on this one. Bobby may have accepted your correction gracefully if you hadn't taken the pot shot at him immediately after. In this thread where Michael vs Bobby is concerned, you made the first move.

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 06-25-2010 09:01 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Michael Coate
No, it doesn't. That's just nonsense that people like you come up with when you're pissed or embarrassed that you have been the recipient, or "victim," of being corrected. (Which is ironic since someone like you wouldn't think twice about correcting me or someone else when the opportunity presents itself.)
Me correct you? When has that ever happened?

My act of labeling you as Internet Cop comes from observing your posting habits. You often do two things here at Film-Tech: you carbon copy stuff from your web page into this forum or point out when others are wrong.

I agree I can be very opinionated, argumentative, be a jerk and even be flat out wrong about some things. That can happen with a lot of people when they get passionate about a certain topic of interest. However, more often than not I participate in discussions here rather than inflaming them.

quote: Michael Coate
Moreover, Bobby, you are a stubborn loser who cannot ever admit when he's wrong. What I have observed when you have been corrected is you tend to do one or more of the following: (1) you disappear from the discussion, (2) you attack the person correcting you, and (3) you try to spin your way out to avoid having to admit making a mistake.
You're repeating yourself from 10 years ago when we had disagreements on the free for all, unmoderated flame fest known as Usenet. I'll play along anyway. BTW, "stubborn loser?" I didn't know there was anything to win.

When someone points out something I wrote is wrong in this forum I usually let that person's response speak for itself. Obviously you think I should always follow up with a groveling "I'm sorry; I was wrong" post.

The times where others (particularly you, Mike) have drawn my ire, it usually comes down to the motive behind the correction. If the correction is rude or just plain hair-splitting pointless I might respond in a less than nice manner.

Your previous response to me in this thread about when/where Jaws played in Yuma, AZ was an angry, insulting attack, clearly illustrated by your comment: "and, Bobby, don't even give me any of your Internet Cop bullshit."

There are times where it serves no purpose to correct someone. Here in Oklahoma I often listen to people butcher the English language with examples similar to: "We was playing the Iron Man DVD and the machine shut off." If I stop the conversation to correct the person's bad grammar I'll make an even bigger error in bad manners. The other day I listened to a cattle owner tell a friend of mine how much more heart healthy fat-laden beef was than lean beef (as if any of it is "heart healthy"). I just kept my mouth shut. Of course that rule in good manners is a little easier to follow when talking to people face and face. I'm trying harder to follow the same wisdom here.

quote: Michael Coate
Did you play sports as a child, Bobby? I ask because as an adult you appear to have no grasp of the concept of sportsmanship (which is related to the competitive nature of these Internet forums). With your attitude on these forums, you remind me of a poor-sport loser, like a tennis player who after losing refuses to come to the net to shake the hand of their opponent.
Mike, this forum doesn't function as a game or sport where anyone is keeping score. To hear you talking about sportsmanship is funny. You recently deleted me from your Facebook friend's list. I'm trying to remember why. It was either the "Internet Cop" thing or me not using the correct verb in describing how the Loews Astor Plaza in NYC was closed in a FB discussion (I used the more emotionally charged term "demolished" rather than the more accurate but far too nice sounding term "remodeled" -the 1500 seat theater was still aborted out of the Mariott Marquis building).

Despite our past run-ins I responded positively to your friend request. I've had heated discussions with a few people in this forum, such as Mark Gulbrandsen (on topics like the HD-DVD versus Blu-ray, RealD being "Real Dumb" or Canon vs. Nikon). Yet I've been enough of a "good sport" to add Mark to my friend's list.

quote: Michael Coate
Frankly, your comments here, Bobby, are idiotic and reek of someone who is jealous.
Mike, my comments weren't idiotic. I'm not jealous of you either. Do you think I am trying to compete with you in cataloging information about movies? I'm not. If it's making you happy and even making you money keep on doing it.

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 06-25-2010 09:02 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Michael Coate
And you're not hell bent on being right all the time??? Try reading your posts sometime, Bobby.
News flash: You guys are both hell-bent on being right all the time. Instead of crapping all over this interesting thread, why not take the argument to PM?

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Michael Coate
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 - posted 06-27-2010 03:04 PM      Profile for Michael Coate   Email Michael Coate   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Bobby Henderson
You recently deleted me from your Facebook friend's list.
Huh? We've never been Facebook friends. (You must be thinking of a situation or two where we've both posted comments in a discussion initiated by a Mutual Friend.)

You do turn up regularly on my "Suggested Friends" page, Bobby, and I've even considered "friending" you, but figured all the years of bad blood would motivate you to reject the request.

I do think it is time to bury the hatchet, so, if you're up for it, I would consider becoming Facebook friends. At the very least, we ought to agree to lay off the antagonism and conflict between us here on Film-Tech.

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John Wilson
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 - posted 06-27-2010 03:46 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Amen to that.

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Chris Slycord
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 - posted 06-27-2010 05:36 PM      Profile for Chris Slycord   Email Chris Slycord   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Michael Coate
I'm surprised you didn't recognize this since you, along with Joe and that jerk Chris Slycord, contributed to that thread heading south.)
Get over yourself. I haven't said a peep to you for weeks and then you come in here throwing mud at me? Grow up.

And I thought I had made it clear through our earlier email that I meant no ill-will toward you in that thread, but apparently you still don't see it that way.

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Victor Liorentas
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 - posted 06-27-2010 06:32 PM      Profile for Victor Liorentas   Email Victor Liorentas   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It's not gonna be like this on the ship is it Mr Quint?

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 06-27-2010 07:14 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Vic, [Big Grin] PERFECT!! [thumbsup] [beer]

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Jennifer Pan
THE JEN!

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 - posted 06-27-2010 07:23 PM      Profile for Jennifer Pan   Author's Homepage   Email Jennifer Pan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
1) How many of you saw "Jaws" in its original theatrical release?

A: I'm currently 25... so that would be a no... [Frown]

2) Do you believe "Jaws" is a classic worthy of discussion/celebration?

A: Yes, absolutely.

3) Do you believe "Jaws" ought to be remade (and in 3-D) per the current talk in Hollywood?

A: Hell no.

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Chris Slycord
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 - posted 06-27-2010 07:29 PM      Profile for Chris Slycord   Email Chris Slycord   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm in the same boat as Jen, though I'm 30. It's definitely a fantastic movie and a classic (I even remember my parents saying that less people went to the the beach in Virginia Beach after it was released although that's a bit anecdotal).

And if this movie gets redone in 3D it's gonna be done with some youngster that the studios think is the next hot thing. It will suck.

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John Wilson
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 - posted 06-27-2010 07:43 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Chris Slycord
I even remember my parents saying that less people went to the the beach in Virginia Beach after it was released although that's a bit anecdotal
That did happen. That summer (and several thereafter) was a disaster for seaside resorts

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Chris Slycord
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That alone shows the impact of the movie.

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John Wilson
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 - posted 06-27-2010 07:51 PM      Profile for John Wilson   Email John Wilson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Things weren't helped for them when the sequel advertised brilliantly with the tagline:
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Claude S. Ayakawa
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 - posted 06-27-2010 08:15 PM      Profile for Claude S. Ayakawa   Author's Homepage   Email Claude S. Ayakawa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Although not as good as the original JAWS, I did enjoy JAWS 2 just as much as the original. All of the others that followed sucked big time.

-Claude

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