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Brad Miller
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posted 10-09-2005 04:44 PM

Anyone remember the 20th anniversary 1997 Star Wars reissue trailers?

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"See Star Wars the way it was meant to be seen..." (This was referring to people watching it on video.)

Ummmm no, apparently it is now meant to be seen in 3D! [Razz]

I do find it humorous that Andy Summers will not be watching Star Wars in theaters 3 weeks fromnow, as George Lucas intended. Shame on you Andy.

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Mike Heenan
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posted 10-09-2005 07:27 PM

I think Andy should be a true star wars fan and go wait in line for the remaining 3 weeks for the dvd.

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William Hooper
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posted 10-10-2005 03:16 AM

Winners of the 2005 Ig Nobel Peace Prize: 'Claire Rind and Peter Simmons of Newcastle University, in the U.K., for electrically monitoring the activity of a brain cell in a locust while that locust was watching selected highlights from the movie "Star Wars." '
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/biol/research/psychology/nsg/insectvision/projects-3.html

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Andy Summers
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posted 10-10-2005 03:11 PM

Sonic Whole Overhead Sound now installed and ready for “Star Wars episode 3” at the present moment I’m testing her out, and she works lovely, this totally immerses you in a cocoon of sound, this may not be the final leap in Dolby Digital surround-EX, but it sure makes the movie experience more fun at home than most cinemas.

“Mission to Mars” “We Where Soldiers” all work out just fine, as do a few others with split-surrounds, anyway 20 days to go now, I like round numbers…

Well I guess that makes my home THX cinema 8.1 now, with a few extra left centre and right centre channels to be installed in the near future….WOW. [Wink]

Mike'

No I’m not a true Star Wars fan, what I mean by that is I don’t dress up in costumes and hang around cinemas day in and day out like all the rest, I simple like the films as a science fiction film media, nothing more and nothing less, as for the sound design and mixing techniques on all six films, yes I like raving about that, same goes with “Glory.” [Smile]

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Paul Linfesty
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posted 10-10-2005 03:47 PM

quote: Andy Summers
Sonic Whole Overhead Sound now installed and ready for “Star Wars episode 3

Just curious, Andy. Has the DVD been specifically encoded for this? If not, then are you truly playing back this feature in the manner that George Lucas wants you to? And are you using only a THX-certified component/speaker for the overhead (matrixed channel from the L-R "EX") channels? If not, than that would kinda render your THX system rather non-certifiable (unlike a certain someone we know [Wink]

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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-10-2005 06:58 PM

quote: Andy Summers
Well I guess that makes my home THX cinema 8.1 now

That is stupid. Your home theater is stupid. I can't believe people count MATRIXED channels as part of the whole 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 etc thing. You do not have 8 true discrete channels. The most you can hope for at home is 6.1. The most you can hope for at the theater is 5.1 from Dolby Digital and DTS and 8.0 (6.0 for most movies) from SDDS.

Home theater terminology makes me sick. Y'all a bunch o' amateurs!

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Brad Miller
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posted 10-10-2005 08:22 PM

What's even more sick are the people that think they have a THX system at home, but fail to realize that home THX setups do not come anywhere near requirements of REAL THEATER THX auditoriums!

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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-10-2005 10:21 PM

I've been to peoples' "THX" home theaters where I can hear their furnace in the backround or people walking around upstairs. THX my ass! I highly doubt that very many rooms in peoples' homes are quiet enough to meet thats spec. But they have equipment with the THX logo on it so that's all they need. Nevermind that their center channel is not the same make and model as their left and rights. Nevermind that they take all of the low frequencies from EVERY SPEAKER and route it to the subwoofer instead of letting the thing be discrete. Andy, once again you have given me diarrhea with corn chunks.

Also, if I have the apostrophes in the wrong place anywhere in my post here, please let me know.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 10-10-2005 10:56 PM

If there's corn chunks it, how can it still be diarrhea? I thought diarrhea was all liquid.

Either way, with how that BM was described I strongly recommend a thorough shower with lots of soap and scrubbing. Paper alone won't wipe away a mess like that.

I'd like to record some diarrhea sounds with a THX-certified microphone and then charge people $1,748.86 per month to have the audio download into their THX-certified cellphones as cute ringers. Run the flatulence through a harmonizer and turn the toots into tunes! It would give the THX "Deep Note" a whole new meaning!

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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-11-2005 12:50 AM

quote: Bobby Henderson
If there's corn chunks it, how can it still be diarrhea?

Andy's posts give me very special diarrhea. It has the exact same consistency as tapioca pudding, except completely different.

quote: Bobby Henderson
Either way, with how that BM was described I strongly recommend a thorough shower with lots of soap and scrubbing. Paper alone won't wipe away a mess like that.

Wipe away? Paper? What are you talking about?

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Andy Summers
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posted 10-11-2005 04:22 AM

Your disgusting man well let me see, around 1994 I saw “Maverick” at the newly refitted Warner West End now called “VUE” the “THX” sound system in that auditorium was just way too bright sounding not much low end, and worse it failed to impress me. Unlike the “Empire” and “High Wycombe 6” the Warner also had sound system problems that day with what sounded like the audio leads been disconnected thus creating loud buzz and humming and thumping sound, “the audience was laughing….”

Well we all know that the “THX 3417” cross-over is nothing more than a high tech electronic cross-over network system, I also heard that some “THX” cinemas lost there licence due to noisy “AC” is one of them, and the rest is just cinema politics.

Now as to the question of home “THX” that some issue you have brought up lots of people disagree with home “THX” and those us that agree with the technical standards understand, mate I’ve worked for two cinemas hear in the UK in the past, something I wouldn’t mind doing again if one would arise.

Now Joe’ what you think about the use of adding matrix decoders on to Dolby Digital for extracting an extra channel or as I would plainly put it, tacking away this the disorientation, where in the past and I noticed slight confession between the split-surrounds, this is where the modification of the Dolby CP-45, correct me if that is wrong, helps making the spilt-surrounds more open, wider etc, etc.

Anyway I got to get back to my class mow, bye, bye…….19 days to go LOL
[Big Grin]

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Paul Linfesty
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posted 10-11-2005 01:24 PM

quote: Joe Redifer
I can't believe people count MATRIXED channels as part of the whole 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 etc thing.

Maybe because Dolby considers matrixed channels as true channels.

From the Dolby website :

Dolby Digital Surround EX brings even more realistic surround effects, with added dimension and depth. It adds a third surround channel the Dolby Digital format (making it, in effect, 6.1), reproduced through speakers on the rear walls of the cinema."

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Andy Summers
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posted 10-11-2005 02:09 PM

Paul’

Yeah if you think about it, the signals within the Dolby SA-10

http://www.kinoteam.de/kt/image/big/dol_sa10_innen.jpg

must have a few more things up it sleeve, and I’m a believer and know that I will be getting a signal from the height surrounds, or “Sonic Whole Overhead Sound” and if using Dolby matrix decoding processors to extract extra information that sounds different, then I see no wrong in it, if it’s an ancient technology and it works, then why not use it...

I was running center back surround in my home cinema, nearly 1 year before I read about it for cinema application, as well as specking to a Dolby technician based at the New York office about the idea of using a Dolby pro-logic decoder with my Millennium dts 2.4.6 decoder, the technician understood what I was saying by making it more exciting and drawing the audience into the film just a little bit more.

But my original idea consisted of five surround loudspeakers for the back, and multi layout of the side array, and the height surround was there to use back around 1998, though I never gave it any thought, but now I’m looking to find ways to add on or improve the film, like “cross over height surround” this is another idea that I have worked out, when I was watching Goldeneye dts 5.1 SS THX Laserdisc, side 1 chapter 24, I thought wait a second I’ve got a plan, and after drawing a few diagrams came up with what I call “cross over height surround” which is completely different to “Sonic Whole Overhead Sound.”

So why am I playing with "Sonic Whole Overhead Sound” and not “cross over height surround” simple fact is I don’t have enough Dolby matrix decoders to do this at the present moment, I need matching decoders and a few more stereo amplifiers EQ’s to make this doable.

Well all I have to do is keep checking the second hand shops for some matching AVR, as some home cinema users get rid of them at the silliest prices, bring it on, if I can make it work for say around £200.00 0r less not bad at all…..I will be patient.

Getting close now 19 days.... [beer]

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Paul Linfesty
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posted 10-11-2005 04:01 PM

quote: Andy Summers
Dolby matrix decoding processors to extract extra information that sounds different, then I see no wrong in it

Keep in mind the key word here is "decoding," which means to pull out something that was encoded in the first place. Anything else is not part of the intended mix.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-11-2005 04:07 PM

If it's not discrete, then the number value should not be increased (5.1 to 6.1, etc). They should just say "matrixed to emulate a 6.1 sound" or some shit like that. You are still relying on the bandwidth of two channels to create three or more. Dolby can lick my diarrhea-laden ass if it thinks otherwise.

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