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Andy Summers
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 - posted 10-17-2005 06:03 PM      Profile for Andy Summers         Edit/Delete Post 
13 days to go now October 31st 2005 is getting closer, and for you guys just 14 days getting nearer and nearer….and with Batman Begins in just 3 days holy £14.99 that’s cheep…. [beer]

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Joe Redifer
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15 pounds? That's like $24 over here. Ouch. Our Batman Begins will be $15 (about 8 pounds or maybe 16 kilos. Whatever weighs more). I will have it in less than 24 hours. America is the land of opportunity. Oh, and my version won't be increased in speed up to 25fps. PAL framerate sucks ass, but I'm sure you know that.

Did you say somewhere that your speakers are set to 105db for each of the front channel speakers and 110db for the subwoofer? That is incredibly wrong. All of the equipment in my room is THX certified. Does that mean I have myself a THX cinema?

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Andy Summers
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Yeah the frame rate does suck big time, [thumbsdown] is if I didn’t know that, 24 is the international rate…. [thumbsup]

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 10-19-2005 04:23 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I just watched a DVD of SWE3ROTS in Dolby Digital Surround EX 5.1 JBL SPL THX 5.1 JBL! OMG the sound was so good! You may not believe that I really watched it, but I did. You would not believe the THX certified 115db JBL SPL THX SRD OMG! I watched it in certified THX! Did I mention that I watched it in THX? Well I did watch in in THX! In fact it was 105db THX JBL SPL JBL THX SPL JBL THX db JBL!!!!!! Each and ever db was THX certified by SPL. I think I will mention THX in every god damned post I ever make, just like Andy. All hail JBL THX SPL 5.1!

Now I will go put JBL stickers on my speakers.

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 10-19-2005 11:28 AM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Naw, you need some huge, custom made vinyl logos to apply to the cabinets (cut from of official JBL artwork of course). Have plenty of THX and Dolby logos too -even that 40th anniversary thingie.

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Adam Wilbert
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 - posted 10-19-2005 12:11 PM      Profile for Adam Wilbert   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Wilbert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Head on over to brands of the world for all of your vector logo rebranding needs. JBL , THX and two dozen flavors of Dolby .

Might as well get some extra vinyl cut so that you can certify your 5.1THX SPL JBL DD street-racin' car.

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Joe Redifer
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Freakin' AWESOME site there, Adam! 5.1 JBL SPL dbc!!!

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Bobby Henderson
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Sorry, but Brands of the World sucks ass. And that includes all its attempts at Dolby and DTS logos.

I should know. I deal with a lot of authentic corporate logos and other artwork. The versions often found on the Brands of the World website are poorly done knock-offs. The level of inaccuracy is often surprising. I grabbed a Best Western logo off Brands of the World to use as a place holder in one sign design. Then I received the authentic vector art from Best Western's marketing department. The BOTW version sucked ass, just as I predicted!

I have strongly advised other graphics people I know to use logos found there ONLY for comping purposes and never for any final output.

Just as bad, all logo libraries for sale on CD are no better. They mostly have inaccurate re-creations and not authentic artwork. Either source almost never has proper color specifications.

Then you have to consider such sites and compilation CDs never have any of the useage guidelines, such as protected white space specifications, font specifications and more.

About the only easy way any casual computer user will get access to authentic corporate logos in vector form is by downloading PDFs from a corporation's website and opening the PDF within Adobe Illustrator. Very often, however, many of those PDFs are encrypted and password protected. There are hacks that can get around PDF security, but it's probably too much of a pain for most people.

In the end, even when you have a proper version of a popular trademark, you can't do much with it -at least in terms of business use- without having the useage guidelines. Gotta follow them to the letter. If you don't your customer won't get paid any of that co-op advertising money to recoup his expense on stuff like signs, website graphics, etc.

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Adam Wilbert
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 - posted 10-19-2005 08:32 PM      Profile for Adam Wilbert   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Wilbert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
While I totally agree that they might not be 100% accurate for legitimate business use, who is going to be upset that their knock-off re-logoed speakers aren't pantone correct? The other option, of course, is to contact those companies directly, tell them your plan to print stickers to put on your sucky speakers to make them sound better, and then wait for said company to mail you a logo disc. Granted, the whole operation is infringing on copyright, but who is Joe if he's not against the commodification of intellectual property?

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 10-19-2005 08:37 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I dunno, let's look:

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Looks perfect to me.

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Perfect, except maybe the word "Video" is a bit off-centered. Easily fixed.

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Looks completely wrong! Please e-mail me a proper vector.

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Completely 100% perfect.

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Rough around the edges.

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Looks good to me. Maybe the "shine" is off? I don't think that really matters since the shine is usually in motion. Maybe it could use a bevel as well.

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Andy Summers
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Ok whose the pirate hear that is the dodgiest dts logo in living memory. [puke]

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Mike Blakesley
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 - posted 10-20-2005 05:20 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I looked at the DTS logos on the site, the one for theatrical looks better than the one Joe posted. (At least the fonts are correct.)

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Andy Summers
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Mike’

T-minors 10 days and counting, yes it’s only ten days now before we Brits get are hands on George Lucas’s Star Wars episode 3 Revenge of the Sith, but there is a new hope for you guys across the pond it’s called 11 days and counting, so be cool. [thumbsup]

Robert’

Hallo there by now most of the Film-Tech crew have seen my home cinema set-up.

The THX baffle wall that I plan to construct when the time is right, should take me about two weeks with such matters like cost, once that is dealt with the trail and error will start, once built and if it doesn’t work to my expectations tearing it down and restarting will be a messy affair, so this is why I have planed to firstly start of with a sound stage extending the entire width of the front, the depth of it will be the same of the JBL sub bass, the height will be around ½ inc to an 1inc above the SONY monitor.

I will have addition support holding it place, placed at each side of the SONY monitor, and then the positioning of the three-screen JBL control 5 will be calculated with the centre in the usual position, with angles of pointing it down to the sweet spot in the room, once I’ve checked it out and have determined it will be fixed into position with some small pieces of wood screwed down into the stage on each side of the JBL, with a wedge piece keeping it at the chosen angle.

Selecting the positions of the left and right screen-channels will be critical, were it’s voicing of panned sounds along with captivating my attention as well or anyone for that matter, fixing them will be same as with the centre, except they will have a slight toe in as I will be experimenting not just with (Wideband Pink Noise) but with some very complex films one that comes to mind is “Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.”

Once done the construction of the vertical THX baffle wall will start, with cutting plasterboard to size one for each section where it will be addressed to and the frame work to support each section as well, I’ll need a small access way or opening that will be screwed into the baffle wall, so if I needed to get to any one of the JBL’s the access way will be placed in-between the left and centre and right and centre with room to at lest get my arms in there.

(Rockwool) will be placed within it along the walls and the baffle as well, and just thinking that I’m sensitive to that stuff so I’ll take caution with it.

So it will take a few weeks, where someone else may do it with a few days, no rush.

Anyway thank you for showing interest, as for your home cinema, start of again with matching loudspeakers for the front, and depending on the size of the room, high end bookshelf models are recommended, one there far easy to install, and multiple surrounds.

Hope it works out for you.

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Bobby Henderson
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Joe,

The Dolby Digital logo, but just a bit off. I'll e-mail you a PDF showing actual measurements of the elements. Too bad it's an outdated design. The newer Dolby logos have the Eurostile "Dolby" letters blown up too big for the container rectangle.

The DVD Video logo: decent attempt, but still off a bit. I have a collection of authentic marks from SPE/Sony. It's pretty amazing how much trouble they went through to develop specific DVD logos for lots of different point sizes. The brand marks even have all the cuts adjusted to account for ink flow/dot gain.

The DTS Digital Surround logo is just hideous. Whoever did that recreation needs to have his Crayons confiscated.

The Pioneer logo: again pretty close, but not perfect. I downloaded that BOTW website version and compared it to logos I extracted out of a couple product manuals and their 2005 annual report. The paths don't quite line up. Different placements of control points. Most people wouldn't know (much less care) about the difference. But I wouldn't use that BOTW version on any electronic store promotional stuff.

SDDS logo? How the hell can I know? I'm having trouble trying to dig up one of the copies I have of it. It's been a long time since I've cared to bother looking into that format!

THX - looks like some JPEG bitmap output from Photoshop. Not flat vector art. Just pull up some Denon audio video receiver owner's manual PDFs, open them in Adobe Illustrator and you'll have some good THX logos that way, dude!

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Andy Summers
there is a new hope for you guys across the pond it’s called 11 days and counting, so be cool.
Like I said dude, I have already watched the DVD version of this.

Bobby:
Just checked my e-mail, nothing there. I was hoping to find an e-mail with Dolby Digital EX, DTS, and DVD Video vector logos attached (as I can use them for my own DVD cases because I usually mix shorts that I shoot in Dolby Digital and DTS).

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