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Topic: Star Wars Ep 3 : Revenge of the Sith on DVD Nov. 1st 2005
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Andy Summers
Master Film Handler
Posts: 397
From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 10-11-2005 08:08 PM
Bobby’
You’re all clued up on this and one the ball as usual, now I can’t speak about what Joe’ said but I think he should consult a Doctor before he overflows the sewers and “Denver” is flooded and overwhelmed with diarrhea. http://www.bangkokhealth.com/cimages/diarrhea02.jpg
Now this is getting some attention, it’s all about spectacular or adding more parts of the room with extra sound, anyway call it what you will, other than this new “Dolby” format, “Dolby Digital Plus” holding up to 8 channels wow, now will this have the left centre and right centre channels or do they have different plans for this.
Anyway Bobby’ do you think you can post a direct glossary link explaining more on “Dolby Digital Plus” sounds good.
Maybe we can have some of the old Todd-Ao films as they where meant to be heard five-screen and split-surrounds, D’oh! Sorry mono surrounds as split-surrounds didn’t come around till mid 1970’s “Superman the movie”, will if they what to remix the film and not give us the original road show event, so be it.
Frank’ sorry you have been left in total confusion, on these issues I trust that you will make heads and tails of all this madness.
One more thing Bobby’ will dts be on the HD-DVD band wagon, with a newer version of dts-ES or will it remain unchanged only with a higher bit rate, oh and why isn’t Dolby implementing this new format into the professional field the cinema, and once again “making films sound better….” ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 10-12-2005 12:52 PM
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our preview cinema setup of a DOLBY CP55, QSC power amps and aaron loudspeakers will knock your digital THX, JBL, SPL down any day. [Big Grin] And yes that's without stereo surround!
Let me get this straight, are you saying your setup playing a plain stereo or mono track will sound better than another nice system playing the same material in 5.1 digital? If that's the case, I don't buy it. The quality of source material being played is a primary determining factor on whether the sound quality is good or not.
Basically, someone would have to have a horribly set up system (either commercial or in the home) to have 5.1 sound worse than an optical stereo or mono track.
quote: Paul Linfesty
If it's against their advertising policy, then why do they use it on their website?
1. The verbiage on Dolby's website is written by more than one person -likely many people. Lots more room for error.
2. Whoever put up the 6.1 and 7.1 phoney baloney bullcrap probably only did it to make some geeks in one tech-head camp happy -probably so they would stop e-mailing Dolby to tell them "it's really 6.1!"
The argument of it being okay to describe DD-EX as 6.1, 7.1, etc. makes about as much sense as a car stereo fanatic claiming his automobile has 20 channels of sound based solely on his number of amps and speakers. If you're playing a normal red book CD on the thing, you're only playing back 2 discrete channels. Not any more than that.
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Andy Summers
Master Film Handler
Posts: 397
From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 10-13-2005 02:05 PM
Bobby’
Hallo there I’ll get to the point, now I’ve just looked into the Dolby web site for information on “Dolby Digital Plus” which you stated it can support up to 8 channels 7.1, now I can’t find a speaker diagram layout for this, it has to be on the site somewhere? So I’m just going to take a guess will it have five-screen channel and the usual split-surround configuration with Dolby surround-EX including .1 sub bass LFE, sounds like the SDDS 8 format, or will it be left centre right split-surrounds discrete centre back surround and discrete height surround or “Sonic Whole Overhead Sound” with the .1 sub bass LFE, which configuration will it be?
Do you have those facts…?
Paul’
The whole point to Dolby surround-EX is to eliminate the disorientation between the stereo surrounds with phantom imaging which can be disorientation, I’ve noticed this effect so many times, I and with Dolby surround-EX it juts makes it more easier to pin point sounds and make the flybys with airplane spaceships etc, and giving the mixers for flexibility and creativity, it’s like this, Dolby pro-logic will work with any stereo format depending on ho it’s mixed which is what I have noticed.
Now there are some films that some people say sound better in Dolby pro-logic, like the surround effects, bearing in mind the crosstalk errors there will be some parts of the music that was mixed for the front, well it’s going to find it’s way leaking into the surrounds overlapping or masking a particular part of the music like a violin, and a trumpet from the fronts is masking the violin on the surrounds due to phasing of the signal, well, will use that for argument sake shall we.
“A View to A Kill” on DVD the opening titles by “Duran, Duran” is only played back over the left and right fronts there is nothing carried on the centre channel and no music on the split-surrounds as well, but in Dolby pro-logic someone will say it sound better in Dolby pro-logic, you see what I mean by that.
However by placing a Dolby pro-logic in of the front left and right and placing amplification EQ and extra loudspeakers, like upper center which is taking the signal from the phantom left and right, and with the press of the button activating the Dolby pro-logic will give a more precise location of the sounds placement, thus sending it to the center which I have placed above the stranded centre channel output.
Now with using Dolby pro-logic and placing more loudspeakers for the surrounds including amplification EQ, or I can use a stereo mixer and by using the line inputs of a basic 6 channel model lines 1 and 2 for side surrounds and sending the pan pots to left and right, line 3 the signal from the surround matrix output from the Dolby pro-logic and keeping the pan pot centred thus the signal will be going to left and right, and adjusting the levels with wideband pink noise to get it all finalized the center back surround will output in the normal way…
17 days to go...October 31st 2005....
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