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Mike Babb
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Another in NCG Owosso Michigan, house 7

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Pete Naples
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In the UK, the Rheged, Penrith, Cumbria.
This is a MegaaSystems giant screen venue.
The previous audio processor was by Peavey. We left the loudspeakers and amplifiers as installed.
More to come.

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Mike Babb
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NCG Coldwater Michigan house 1
NCG Midland Michigan house 9
NCG Owosso Michigan house 6
NCG Greenville Michigan house 2

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Mike Babb
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Palm Springs Art Museum Annenberg Theatre, for you California folks

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Mike Babb
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Another demo is installed at Ipic Boca Raton, house 8, for those of you in Florida.

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Pete Naples
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For those in the Republic of Ireland, screen 8, the Eye cinema, Galway.

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Steve Guttag
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Is there an actual reason that you all are keeping track of where they are being put in? Imagine if all of the CP750s, JSD60s and DAX602s were treated that way.

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Pete Naples
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Steve,

For me I would like people ( you for example [Wink] ) to go and experience it for themselves, to allow them to make an informed opinion based on experience, rather than heresay. The topic is the Trinnov Ovation, and the proof of the pudding, as they say, is in the eating. The purpose of this forum is to discuss Film Tech, we should all speak from experience as much as possible.

Trinnov Ovation isn't a CP750 et all, nowhere close.

It really is worth hearing. Our industry should be embracing this technology and taking heed of a manufacturer who is putting the R&D in, rather than rolling out the next generation of the same concept.

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Steve Guttag
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Pete, I don't begrudge the topic or discussion. Yes, I'd love to hear one (or many). Build a better mouse trap? I'm interested.

It is the posting of the various installations that turns this less of a discussion and more of just an "ad" for the product. In fact, it buries the discussion part. If anything, all of the posts relating to mere installations tend to be off-putting, to me at least. As I said, imagine I was a fan-boy of the JSD60 and I set about posting each and every installation. It would dwarf any discusiion on the product itself.

To put it in other terms. I liked the Panastereo CSP1200. I discussed it many times in the FHF but never went about posting the sites I put it in. I wasn't a shill for the product but would be glad to discuss it to anyone interested. Now, if I posted pictures in the warehouse (e.g. The AFI/Silver), then like all other equipment in that post, the Panastereo equipment was listed.

What I think might be of more use is posting a product review with as much detail as possible.

By all means, promote the heck out of something you like. I just don't get the continual installation notice thing.

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Mike Babb
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Steve, perhaps Pete can comment on this too but when I have spoken to people about it, the number one question I get is where can I hear it. So perhaps I have been overly informative on that point and if so I apologize to the forum. When I first posted there were very few, now there are quite a lot in the US (I haven't posted the last 40 or so installed), so as you say, it becomes annoying to post them all and I would not have. Pete's are the only two so far in his part of the world so its worthwhile I think.

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Steve Guttag
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I guess it would have been better (for me, and possibly others) to have a separate thread that was dedicated to the install base. Then if someone wanted to hear it, they could use that thread to find a location near them. Naturally, it would be better if it wasn't in thread form but an updating list by geographic location.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I know I'll be putting one in very soon. Trinnov has left the rest of the industry in the dust with this product and it's pretty reasonably priced...

Mark

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Brad Miller
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This issue has been teetering for awhile now.

My personal opinion (bold for those who might get their delicate feathers ruffled), the idea of me going to some theater to listen to a sound processor is of absolutely no use to me. A good tech can make a lousy processor sound pretty good and a bad tech can make the best processor sound flat out terrible.

Plus we have room acoustics, speaker models, aiming, baffle wall, etc to take into account, all of which will noticeably affect the sound.

So going into Joe Bob's theater to hear if this processor is any good really doesn't tell me a damn thing. If its not in an auditorium I am familiar with the acoustics and have personally tuned, listening to it is essentially a waste of my time.

So to quote Shark Tank: "for these reasons..." listing the installs really is borderline advertising. Going forward what needs to be done is provide a website to go to for those who want to hear an existing demo or borrow a processor to conduct their own demo. People who then contact that website can then be told through private email where the closest existing install is to them and so forth. We don't allow ads here and this is really getting into that territory.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I honestly probably wouldn't install one of these processors into a theater unless it had a baffle wall and acceptable acoustics. It's kinda pointless to dos o IMHO.

Mark

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Marco Giustini
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I'm with Brad on this one. Too many variables. And the tuning engineer/equipment WILL make a huge difference. Just walking into a cinema to listen won't tell me much, I should be able to hear the before and after and, even better, do my own EQ and then let Trinnov perform theirs.

Mark,
I am still not convinced that Trinnov are leaving the industry 'in the dust' with that. If I understand correctly their EQ is 'simply' a very good one, taking into account direct and reverberated sound and applying filters in a more scientific way.
Datasat are using Dirac which is adjusting the phase of the signal - a pretty major feature if you allow me.
Dolby are now using a sweep tone to align Dolby Atmos. If I am not mistaken that is direct sound only.

So, I wouldn't say that Trinnov is leaving the industry in the dust - they simply chose their way to try and improve things. Not saying it's the wrong way though.

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