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James Westbrook
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 - posted 12-24-2014 09:58 PM      Profile for James Westbrook   Email James Westbrook   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The Alamo Drafthouse in Lubbock has already sold out it's showings for Christmas Day for the movie.

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Jarod Reddig
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Pravin I only volunteer in the film exhibition business these days so my opinion about a movie really means jack shit. My main point was that some of the same people that are calling Sony cowards for not releasing the movie would have done the same thing if the shoe was on there foot. Im totally done with this whole movie though.

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 12-25-2014 12:38 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have never really been interested in seeing this movie because, from what I have seen, it looks totally tasteless. Nauseatingly, tasteless.

Do I believe that North Korea really did it? Maybe. It is still just as possible that it was, as one report put it, a bunch of teenagers wearing Guy Fawkes masks. However, I believe that there are enough generations of people who have grown up under the North Korean regime's influence that the NK government wouldn't have to order such an attack. There are enough brainwashed sympathizers in the world who could have done such a thing on their own.

Even now, I am still not totally convinced that Sony isn't somehow in cahoots with the perpetrators or isn't making mountains out of molehills, all for the sake of a movie that really wouldn't have amounted to much if it wasn't for this.

It just doesn't stand up to reason that any normal person could truly think that they could get away with something like this.

If anybody tries to block the release of a movie, this close to the official release date, after publicity is already in place, they would have to consider the the effect of that would be to generate even MORE publicity for that movie. Any normal person would know that would have the opposite of the effect that they wanted.

If you are going to try to coerce a studio to cancel a movie, you would have to do it way more than two weeks before the release.

As mentally ill as the North Korean government is, I can't imagine how they wouldn't know that.

I can't imagine that sympathizers wouldn't know that.

That leaves only three possibilities left, that I can think of:

A prank by some unknown idiots. (Wearing aforementioned Guy Fawkes masks [Wink] )

A cover for some other corporate espionage against Sony. Like some weird kind of diversionary tactic.

A weird publicity stunt by Sony or somebody in cahoots with Sony.

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 12-25-2014 03:46 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
From Lyle's post:

quote: Lyle Romer
Eventually, some studio will point to this release as the example of how the day and date release worked. Within a few years of that, 90% of theatres will close. Following that, movies will be nothing more than 2 hour TV shows. Budgets will drop and that will be it.......
Saw the app to download the feature, "The Interview" on my Android.

Below this ad was a comment section

Interesting to note that one user made the affirmation comment where he would love to see Hollywood have an Online Streaming Option.

This person would love to see Sony and other companies consider this and change how movie are released because they're still going make money if not more with going to online releases

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Frank Angel
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I am embarrassed to say, I never really get nauseated by tasteless movies...in fact, I can usually enjoy the tasteless stuff,, you know, the stuff that makes my lady frown and answer me with single word sentences for the rest of the night. This pretty much explains it:

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I don't know why everyone assumes this is not going to be a decent film before they see it. Rogan and Franco are two funny guys and certainly work well together as a comedic team. Why assume this is going to be particularly trashy or unfunny?

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Mark Strube
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"The Interview" is now available for purchase via Google Play, YouTube Movies, Xbox, Kernel, and it's all over the torrent sites. Knew it.

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Randy Stankey
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quote: Frank Angel
I am embarrassed to say, I never really get nauseated by tasteless movies...
I agree. I feel like I'm in hot water because I think that some things are funny which others don't.

In this case, it's about the killing.
Stuff in Tarantino movies is one thing but a supposed comedy that is based on killing just makes my stomach turn.

"Be vewwy quiet! I'm hunting wabbits!"... Cartoon violence.
I don't have a problem with that. That's funny. Real violence isn't funny to me. I had too much of that, growing up.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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quote: Monte L Fullmer

Interesting to note that one user made the affirmation comment where he would love to see Hollywood have an Online Streaming Option.

This person would love to see Sony and other companies consider this and change how movie are released because they're still going make money if not more with going to online releases

Sooner the better, I am sick and tired of waiting for months until a movie is released on Netflix or DVD. I don't want to see everything with a theatrical experience and if it takes a down a few shitty theaters with it then so be it.

I also noticed a few members on this board calling SONY or the big chains weenies and such for pulling the Interview, did they all of sudden book the movie in their independent theaters or did they weenie out too?

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Randy Stankey
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The problem is that there are so many people who run around, "I want! I want! I want!," but don't think of the long term effect, then, when, for instance, theaters go out of business, they are the very first to jump up and down bemoaning the fact.

People who run theaters (not just owners... everybody, all the way down to ushers and ticket takers...) need to remember that there are people out there just like that.

Customers don't HAVE to go to theaters. They can stay at home and sit on the sofa, wearing nothing but their underwear. It's not just about the movies. It's about going OUT. It's about socializing and being with other people. It's about having other people take care of the things you need in order to have a good time. It's about paying for the privilege.

People who think that it's ONLY about the movies are thinking bass ackward.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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Randy, your comments are true to some extent, but the "wanting to see the movie" plays a bigger part.

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Martin McCaffery
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 - posted 12-25-2014 12:23 PM      Profile for Martin McCaffery   Author's Homepage   Email Martin McCaffery   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
I also noticed a few members on this board calling SONY or the big chains weenies and such for pulling the Interview, did they all of sudden book the movie in their independent theaters or did they weenie out too?
We close in December and I'm out of town, so didn't book it (would have).

However, a good number of the Art House Convergence, which sent an open letter and petition to Sony urging them to release the film to independent theaters, DID book the film. This required rearranging schedules and a mad rush to get it on the screen in one or two days. Many of them also tried, but were turned down by Sony. From the reports I've been reading on the AHC group, they have sold out shows, that will go to help fund the exhibition of more indie films in the future.

I can't speak for indie theatres on Film-Tech, but yes, many indie theatres calling out Sony did book The Interview in their theaters.

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Mike Blakesley
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I wouldn't book it now because it's out on video. It's spoiled goods.

quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
I don't want to see everything with a theatrical experience and if it takes a down a few shitty theaters with it then so be it.
You're just proving, again, that you don't know how this business works or the economics of it. A day and date video/theatrical pattern for all movies would kill most or all of the theaters eventually, not just "a few shitty theaters." Yes, even your beloved Imax wouldn't be safe.

The biggest risk and problem is, not 100% of the public moves to new trends at the same rate. Some are early adopters, some wait months or years. So someday the studios will try the day/date thing with a 'mainstream' movie, and it'll still do well in theaters too because most moviegoers will still be in the habit of going out to the movies. The studio will say "See? There's no problem" and continue to do day/date, and then the die will be cast. More and more people will opt for the cheaper/easier option because they only care about the movie itself; they're willing to do without the "experience" in exchange for cheaper/easier. There won't be enough "experience" lovers left to sustain the business. Within a couple of years, there won't be much of a "movie exhibition business" left, except maybe for some art or revival houses in large cities.

If you don't believe that, look what has happened to video and music stores. They're gone! People have opted for cheaper/easier, even though the experience of shopping for music is much better in a really good store.

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Marcel Birgelen
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Not only most remaining movie theaters would go out of business, but it would most likely also be the end of the big budget Hollywood productions all together...

And I still cannot get my mind around what kind of clusterf*ck Sony managed to get going here.

Instead of releasing this in broadside salvos on all channels, everywhere, globally, they went for a "limited theatrical release" and released it on a limited number of Video on Demand sites, but ONLY in the U.S.

So, as a result, their movie is already all over the Internet in Full HD. Since nobody knows when this thing will become available and everybody wants it NOW, nobody is paying jack shit for it and they don't even get the credits, they only look stupid.

What did they earn here? The answer is simple: nothing. Almost no theater will be interested to book their movie anymore, because everybody has already seen it or by the time it's finally available, all the buzz has been blown over.

And how much did they earn on their VOD release? Even if a million people actually paid for it, after Google and Microsoft cashed that's still just a few millions in the bank.

Ah, and I guess since they did release it, in the end, this so called hacker group will also not be pleased. I guess we can expect yet another round of "juicy SPE internals" hitting the news the coming days.

Great work Sony. I hope your execs are enjoying this year's bonuses, looks like they earned them well...

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Monte L Fullmer
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Playing it all day to sold out houses.

No security problem-all quiet.

SONY struck gold with this one along with the limited release houses playing it.

What ya wanna bet the Big Box cinemas will book it for this weekend release to try to play catch up with the ones already playing it?

. Monte

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Joe Redifer
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I wonder if they'll use this movie as a platform to show how "well" movies do on VOD.

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