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Dwayne Caldwell
Master Film Handler

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From: Rockwall, TX, USA
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Mission to Mars was pretty awful.

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John Wilson
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Worst this year... Guest House Paradiso

Worst ever? Hmmm...I'll have to think about that one. I'll get back to you.

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Jason Burroughs
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How about "House of Yes"? Anything with Tori Spelling has GOT to be bad.

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Rick Fowler
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From: Richmond, VA, USA
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Hey Sean,
Nope wasn't I that left his business cards behind. In 1996 was in Fairbanks Alaska as the head projectionist of a 9 screen.

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John Wilson
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They let Tori Spelling on the big screen???

Sheesh...what a waste of film!

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Evans A Criswell
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From: Huntsville, AL, USA
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Rick,

What exactly does a "booth certifier" do? Do you certify that projection equipment is setup properly and such? I wish you'd come here to Huntsville, AL and DECERTIFY all of the auditoriums at Regal Hollywood 18 (numbers 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16) and Regal Madison Square 12 (numbers 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12) that have 1.85:1-only screens with no adjustable masking that show scope with aperture plates that cut 23 percent of the image off on the sides!

Evans A Criswell

Huntsville-Decatur Theatre Information Page
(showtimes, projection quality ratings, historical information):
http://home.hiwaay.net/~criswell/theatre/



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John Pytlak
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Evans:

My next article for Kodak Cinema Notes (December 2000 issue, H-50-57) is about "Caring About Composition". I urge theatre designers to avoid "one size fits all" screens, and the misguided idea of common width projection for "scope" and "flat" just to fill the front wall with a big image, without regard for quality.

I also take the opportunity to remind projectionists of the need to use the SMPTE 35-PA (RP 40) test film to verify their image size, and avoid showing soundtrack or perf images on the screen or masking. Finally, a reminder of the need to check framing to avoid seeing microphone booms and bathing-suited actors in "nude" scenes.

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Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
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Rick Fowler
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Evans,
no I don't certify the theater or the house, I am 1 of 35 certifiers for Regal who has made a large commitment to improve it's presentation by getting it's better booth people to go out and train the managers how to handle films and upkeep thier equipment. it will be a daunting task as my district has 13 theaters for me to train thier people. but that's what my tag means.
Rick

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Evans A Criswell
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John and Rick,

Thanks for your responses. I really wish the practice of using "one size" screens would go away, and I really wish someone high enough up the chain at Regal would order the Huntsville, AL screens be fixed in their Huntsville theatres. It would require the addition of top masking in 12 auditoriums at Hollywood 18 and 8 auditoriums at Madison Square 12. It would require different lenses and aperture plates for scope. In fact, back in October of 1999, someone from Regal told the Huntsville Times that adjustable masking would soon be added to all the screens at Hollywood 18, but Regal has never made good on that promise. Is anyone from Regal Cinemas upper management reading these forums? On my theatre ratings on my site, this causes both Regal theatres in Huntsville to get a 7.5 point deduction from the rating they would normally have.

In their current state, these Huntsville Regal theatres (formerly Cobb) are unacceptable and are a disgrace to the motion picture industry. That's my opinion, although I'll be the first to praise Regal if the screens are fixed to support both ratios properly.

What's really sad is that Regal recently installed stadium seating at both locations and digital sound in all auditoriums of one of the theatres, and left the unadjustable screens as they were. In my opinion, the screens should have been the top priority.

Evans A Criswell http://home.hiwaay.net/~criswell/theatre/


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Brad Miller
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Money is a big issue right now. The term "digital sound" on the marquee brings in people. The term "moveable masking" on the marquee doesn't. I doubt those theaters will ever be corrected, regardless of company.

You need to move!


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John Pytlak
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I well aware of the lack of "artistic awareness" by the general public when it comes to using the proper aspect ratio to maintain composition. My wife practically refuses to watch a DVD letterboxed presentation of a 2.39:1 "scope" film, preferring a "pan-and-scan" VHS version that fills the screen with the "bigger" 1.33:1 aspect ratio.

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Eastman Kodak Company
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: 716-477-5325 Fax: 716-722-7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com

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Scott Norwood
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IMHO, it is easier to justify pan-n-scan video versions of films for home viewing than it is to justify commercial theatres with "fixed-ratio" screens, though.

Watching a movie at home on a television screen is necessarily a "compromise" situation. It is a very different environment from a theatre and serves a different purpose. Something must necessarily be compromised, either scale or composition. Some films can look pretty good in full-frame TV transfers, while others are totally butchered. It just depends on the film and the telecine operator.

On the other hand, there's really no excuse for a commercial theatre, which is a purpose-built structure supposedly designed by knowledgeable professionals, to not properly accommodate the formats that are expected to be shown in it. Top masking might be acceptible in an older theatre where widening an existing pre-widescreen procenium cannot easily be widened, but is similarly silly for a newly built theatre.

I would also argue that all theatres should be capable of showing flat/Academy and flat/1.66 titles properly, as well, but I would be in a minority there...

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John Wilson
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John said>>I well aware of the lack of "artistic awareness" by the general public when it comes to using the proper aspect ratio to maintain composition. My wife practically refuses to watch a DVD letterboxed presentation of a 2.39:1 "scope" film, preferring a "pan-and-scan" VHS version that fills the screen with the "bigger" 1.33:1 aspect ratio.<<

...she must be a good cook though, right?

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John Schulien
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There was a movie in the late 1970s; I remember the name as "Funny Car Summer", but that title isn't in imdb, so I must have it wrong.

It was some nonsense about racing hot-rods. I was in grade school, and had the most exciting trailer -- lots of great looking car crashes. It was all we could talk about until finally it was released. Then we all made our parents take us to see it, and all we could talk about the next day was how much it sucked. They had put every exciting frame of footage into the trailer. Pretty bad when a 9 year old walks out of an action movie thinking, "What a ripoff." Sheesh!

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Erik Schill
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for the worst movie of all time there are three that come to mind, First being Crash Course with Jay Leno and Pat Morita playing "gritty Detroit Detectives" total crap, second would be Slums of Beverly Hills, I remember when we got that, and sitting through the run down I thought I was gonna vomit, I wanted to walk out and get a refund, but I didn't pay and I couldn't leave, it was torture. And second is called Death Valley, I don't really remember much about it, it was made in 1981 when I was 1 year old, but I saw it a few months ago on a movie channel at a hotel I was staying at, and me and my girlfriend just starred at the TV for like 2 hours totally confused as to what the hell we were watching, it was so bad I want to see it again, but have no idea where to find it, even blockbuster doesn't have it

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