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Steve Guttag
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posted 01-12-2011 06:25 AM

Bobby...yes, all of the Sound of Music 70mm were in the "Todd-Ao" mix, that I am aware. I've run at least one of the post 1990 prints and it definitely was 5-screen channels and I believe Dolby-A.

I often will run the leaders to catch the "slate" to determine the mix and often the sync-pop will give an indication of level/balance of the film too.

I had an argument about Hoffa being in stereo surround. I ran the leader for the tech and the slate clearly stated "Split Surround" I won that one!

-Steve

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Aaron Garman
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posted 01-12-2011 10:17 AM

I agree with you Bobby on GoldenEye, at least on the AC3 LaserDisc, the mix is quite shrill at times, especially when running at reference levels.

AJG

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Jonathan Goeldner
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posted 01-12-2011 01:40 PM

quote: Steve Guttag
Yes...for the Sound of Music...definitely the 70mm 6-track mix (we showed it in 70mm at the Uptown Jon...where were you?!?!? I looked )

Jurassic Park is probably the ONLY film that I had to walk out of the theatre on a Studio run-through due to it just sounding bad (painful)...and yes it was at the Uptown for Universal. It was tuned as per Universal too. If that is how it was suppose to sound...it was just didn't do it for me.

I have no problem that people like movies or soundtracks that I don't...that isn't the issue...but when one rambles off a list of titles as being the best...I'm curious as to WHY they think they are the best...it is the only way a thread like this can have meaning. It is a given that these lists are going to be based on the opinion of the person posting.

My favorite Star Wars mix was probably Empire...but I have an affection for that film as the best in the series so the sound may be coming part in parcel.

I really liked the Raiders of the Lost Ark mix too of that era.

Despite only hearing it in Dolby Stereo...Rumble Fish really did a nice job of setting the mood. When Rusty James gets hit in the alley still hurts every time I hear it.

As far as Atmospheric sounds...2001 still reigns king for me. They at least had the balls to have no sound in space. There is a lot of inspiration on the sound of 2001. Heck, despite none of the music being written for the film, that music will forever be associated with that film...pretty powerful stuff.

-Steve

question: regarding 'Empire' (and 'Jedi') for that matter, the 70mm soundmixes were not split stereo surround, but mono surround with two bass - as the 70mm mix of 'Star Wars' (Ep.4) was - right?

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Steve Guttag
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posted 01-12-2011 03:38 PM

The 70mm mixes for Empire and Jedi were format 42 (mono surround) but Star Wars was more of a "crap shoot." There were many mixes for it. Dolby was not as universal in '77 so you might have a spread-mix on it (5-screen channels derived from three, you might have a format 42...subwoofers definitely had not become anywhere remotely common place. Even the mono versus the SVA mixes were dramatically different. The original SVA mix also would not have been for a Cat 150. The Cat 110/116 combination (two separate cards in different card slots) would have been used in the CP50 (if you had one) or the CP100 with an SA1-SA3.

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Jack Theakston
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posted 01-12-2011 04:30 PM

Is it just my ears, or in general, do many of the stereo releases of the last twenty or so years really lack in the mid-range? There's obviously going to be a major difference between what Dolby SR and 4-track mag is going to deliver, but like Steve, what a lot of people think is "impressive," I just don't see/hear.

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Victor Liorentas
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posted 01-12-2011 06:25 PM

My favorite 70mm 6-track mix is hands down The Empire Strikes Back!It is also my favorite in the series and also my first 70mm experience but it had great bass at moments like when the Millinnium Falcon moves towards or away from the camera or takes off from the ice cave on Hoth! This great mix translates well on the dvd.
Fame and Pink Floyds The Wall remain my favorite Mixes with pop or rock music. Fame in 70mm mixed all the sounds so well on the songs! I only saw The Wall in 35mm Mag but it also mixed the music very well with so much depth(not just stereo with a little surround ambiance)
After these i would mention Apocalypse Now,Raiders and Temple Of Doom!

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John Wilson
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posted 01-12-2011 10:21 PM

quote: Steve Guttag
I really liked the Raiders of the Lost Ark mix too of that era.

Agreed wholeheartedly. The original 'The Man From Snowy River' was also an excellent mix of the era.

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Bruce McGee
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posted 01-15-2011 10:27 AM

Agreed. The Man From Snowy River. Excellent film. It was my late fathers favorite film. He was an old horse person.

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