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Author Topic: Best Sound Mix Ever Jennifer Pan THE JEN! Posts: 1219 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: Nov 2003 posted 01-02-2005 02:41 PM                        I'm sure I mentioned American Graffiti on another thread about soundtracks... Best sound mix EVER: "AMERICAN GRAFFITI" [ 01-05-2005, 01:25 AM: Message edited by: Jennifer Pan ]  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-02-2005 03:41 PM                     I beleive originally American graffiti was a mono release (if not it would hae been 4 track mag (I have seen a later issue print in that format)  |  IP: Logged Jonathan M. Crist Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 531 From: Hershey, PA, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 01-02-2005 10:38 PM                     The original release of American Graffitti in 1973 was mono only. The picture was shot on a shoestring when Lucas was an unknown and as such there was no extra in the budget for either 70 or 35 mag prints. The 78 re-issue was Dolby A. And there were only a few of those dolby prints as well. I think a good many of the re-issue prints were mono as well. I ran both 73 and 78 as a projectionist and I did not think the sound mix of either the original or the re-issue was anything special.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 01-02-2005 11:54 PM                    "Jurassic Park" - DTS & Dolby --> A <--!!!! Yeah! "Phantom Menace" - Blew me away. Much better than Attack of the Clones I thought "True Lies" - Very engaging mix starting with the first explosion "Dick Tracy" - 70mm Mag sounded great - even on our theater's crappy sound system. I bet the CDS prints were AWESOME "Spiderman II" - SDDS-8 done right! Honorable Mention: "It Came From Outer Space" - In dual strip Polaroid 3D, with a computer sync'd presentation of the original 3 channel magnetic master, sounded great and maybe not the best mix ever, but... well, it was quite magical. Especially since I was sitting a few seats from Ray Bradbury.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 01-03-2005 01:05 PM                     Punch-Drunk Love AJG  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-03-2005 06:52 PM                     Best sound mix ever? The Sound of Music I don't think the current crop of film mixing people are even capable of that sort of mix. Another excellent mix: 2001: A Space Odyssey The reissue of American Graffiti did have the "Dolby System" logo as opposed to the later "Dolby Stereo" one. True Lies did indeed have an excellent mix in 70mm magnetic. Probably the strongest and cleanest mix I've heard ever. For low budget, give a good listen to Talk Radio. It is very well done without being overstated. The vast majority of the crap I hear nowadays are basic: Dialoge in the Center Music out of Left and Right Some music and effects out of the surrounds The surrounds are about the only thing that seems to have gotten better with time. The lack of panned dialog is quite distracting on larger screens. The lack of 5-screen channels is also quite distracting...the sound doesn't come from where you see the action or it over done. Steve  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-03-2005 07:02 PM                        Well Steve what about theaters who don't set up their mains correctly? Obviously all good theaters will have side masking. What if there are panned-dialog flat movies as well as panned-dialog scope movies? As the masking opens, should the 5 channels behind the screen also widen in their position? Otherwise that limits scope movies and would be hella distracting. Also, are 5 channels behind the screen really enough? 9 would be better. There also needs to be AT LEAST 3 rows of 9 channels behind the screen, because I'm sick of hearing everything come from a common height. I don't know how you can consider any sound mix to be even decent if it all comes from the screen at the same "level".  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-03-2005 07:29 PM                     Joe, maybe that's why those "geniuses" over at AMC stuff the surround speakers up the ceiling. There's nothing quite like a big channel of sound in front of you and one on top of your head. Maybe we should start wearing our headphones like this. One earmuff on the face and the other on top of the head. Yeah, that would be way cool!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-03-2005 07:38 PM                        AMC sucks tremendous amounts of ass. All of their theaters should be destroyed and rebuilt as something less annoying like a DMV.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-03-2005 07:47 PM                     Holy Film Sound Batman! Guttag and I agree on something all the way around...... Sound Of Music, 2001, and True Lies. BTW: True Lies Analog SR mix was also one of the best analog tracks ever put on a 35mm release print. I will also add that there isn't a Cinematographer on this planet that has the ability to capture the imagery as well as was done in Sound Of Music. Mark  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-03-2005 08:57 PM                        Best Sound Mix ever: The Mummy starring Brenden Frasier This movie featured great treble!  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 01-05-2005 12:44 AM                     While "Graffitti" was in mono, Lucas and his sound engineers were able to create a unique pan and scan.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-05-2005 02:31 AM                        Huh?  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-05-2005 08:36 AM                     Double Huh? The Sound of Music in 70MM Mag had a Great Track, the 35mm 4-Track prints also sounded great too. Terminator 2 in CDS at the Cinerama Dome sounded fantastic. Apocalypse Now in 70MM 6-Track Dolby Stereo. Great Race in 70MM Mag had a fun surround track. Empire Strikes Back in 70MM 6-Track Dolby Stereo.  |  IP: Logged Will Kutler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1506 From: Tucson, AZ, USA Registered: Feb 2001 posted 01-06-2005 12:47 AM                     Pay attention to American Graffitti, and maybe listen to the 25th Anniversary re-release with the cast and crew interviews. Even though Graffitti was in mono, listen closely, especially in scenes involving Richard Dryfus wandering around on the streets between the time he was kicked out of his girl friend's car and when he was picked up by the Pharos. Listen how the "surround sound" was created with the background radio broadcast of the Wolfman....then you'll understand.  |  IP: Logged

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