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Author Topic: Best Sound Mix Ever Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-10-2005 05:08 PM                     No Mike, you're just getting old. Twister was dual inventory. You could get an SDDS only print or you could get a DTS/SRD print.  |  IP: Logged Christian Volpi Master Film Handler Posts: 349 From: Arlington, NE Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-10-2005 05:19 PM                        Sorry, I should have also mentioned that we had a DA20 installed at the same time.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-10-2005 06:21 PM                        quote: Paul Howard the enterprise and the other ship captained by Bones flew discreetley into the surround channels. I don't remember Bones captaining ANY ship ever. The mix on the Twister trailer was better than the Twister movie, by far. In fact I remember being somewhat disappointed in the movie (Dolby Digital) after listening to the trailer in Dolby Digital before the movie came out. It was awesome... the other trailers would play (in analog) and then Twister would come on. It starts out with the narrator saying "Even as the seasons change..." and I could always hear audible gasps from the audience over how much better the sound quality was than analog. The trailer built and built and then assaulted you with sound. Then it was done, and the audience always loved it. I did like the discrete Eddie Van Halen guitar that only came through the center channel during the credits of the movie, though (and nothing else). If there wasn't anyone in the auditorium, I'd just turn off the left and right amps and you'd hear a fairly cool guitar solo.  |  IP: Logged Christian Volpi Master Film Handler Posts: 349 From: Arlington, NE Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-10-2005 09:30 PM                        quote: Joe Redifer The mix on the Twister trailer was better than the Twister movie, by far. I noticed it was the same way for "Gone in 60 Seconds." Great trailer both visually and audibly but the movie was nothing impressive. "Twister" may not have had the most impressive sound but you gotta admit that the first time you heard anything in digital it blew you away.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-10-2005 10:07 PM                     Actually, the first movies I saw with digital sound didn't really blow me away --at least in terms of bombastic audio fury. I saw "Dick Tracy" in 70mm Cinema Digital Sound at Loews 84th Street Six in New York. A few months later I saw "Edward Scissorhands" in 70mm CDS at the Ziegfeld. The sound on both shows was excellent, but not rib-rattling. At that time, I was still a bit more impressed with the audio on the 70mm Dolby SR mag print of "Born on the Fourth of July" (also seen at the Ziegfeld). "Jurassic Park" was the first movie with digital sound I saw that blew me away in regards to sheer audio dynamics. But then I picked one hell of a movie theater to watch that flick for the first time: the GCC Northpark #1 in Dallas. 1100 seats. One of the original THX sites. New DTS system installed for the show. Big sound. Deep bass. Yeah buddy. I watched "JP" at the Northpark several times in the summer of 1993. Part of the entertainment for me in repeat viewings was watching how the audio mix would scare the living shit out of the audience at certain points in the movie. The cut from the baby raptor birth scene to the feeding pit was the best. The cut was punctuated by this loud raptor scream. One viewer jumped so badly on that one he ejected his straw out of his drink cup. Got a pretty good laugh out of that.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-10-2005 10:43 PM                        No, Jurassic Park blew me away long before Twister was ever thought of.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 01-10-2005 11:57 PM                     Unfortunately, my experiences of JP in the theatres are not remembered. I was a youngin. It makes me sad because it is my favorite movie and I don't remember much about my theatrical viewings. However, the DTS laserdisc STILL blows me away to this day. As for Twister, at the time, I remember it being quite the amazing mix in DTS. The best experience theatricallly, however, was Saving Private Ryan in DTS. Holy that was incredible. To this day, nothing has quite equaled that experience. Probably never will. AJG  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-11-2005 12:16 AM                        You were a youngin' when Jurassic Park came out? How old are you? 16? Yes, Saving Private Ryan (in Dolby Diigtal) was completely awesome. We also had it in a DTS house, but it sounded like ass. But then again we had a lame-ass tech who knew nothing about sound. (I fixed this issue when Star Wars 1 came out). Yes, this was at that "oriental" theater I used to work at, for those who know me.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 01-11-2005 01:57 AM                        For sheer technical skill Hitchcock's Blackmail would have to be on my list. As it was shot using a single system (i.e. picture and optical sound camera in a single unit) camera and no post-production mixing was possible, the 'mixing' all had to be done live during each take and could not be changed afterwards. One problem was the use of a Czech actress, who spoke virtually no English, playing a Londoner. That wasn't a problem when the film was originally planned as a silent, but became one when the plans were changed. Her lines had to be dubbed, live, off stage by another actress. Her lip sync is near perfect throughout the final film, and the dialogue no more stagey than in many other early '30s stuff. As a film the silent version shot alongside it is vastly better, but the talkie version is still pretty amazing given the primitive technology and huge logistical problems.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 01-11-2005 03:17 AM                     quote: Joe Redifer You were a youngin' when Jurassic Park came out? How old are you? 16? Actually Joe, I was eleven. For some reason though, I don't really remember the experience that much. Since then, I have remembered more about my theatre experiences. I guess I just did not care as much then as I eventually would into my teens. Also, I should have clarified: the comment about being a youngin is only in comparison to cootzilla. AJG  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-11-2005 04:25 AM                        What is that in your mouth?  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 01-11-2005 02:02 PM                     A cigar. I was at my cousin's wedding in that photo and was just about to light that thing up. I didn't realize when the photo was shrunk down on the forum that it'd be hard to tell what it was. I'm working on getting another photo actually...without any paraphanelia in my mouth. AJG  |  IP: Logged Thomas Hauerslev Master Film Handler Posts: 451 From: Copenhagen, Denmark Registered: Aug 2000 posted 01-13-2005 02:33 AM                        "Adventures of Ford Fairlane - A Rock and Roll Detective" - besides being very funny, it did sound spectacular in Dolby SR. Our pair of JBL 4788 subs REALLY got a day´s worth of excesize. "Days of Thunder" and "Ghost" Dolby trailers - magnificent work. "Amadeus" was a nice experience. "Hook", probably the swan song of 70mm 6-track mag, - my goosebumbs had goosebumbs with that soundtrack. cheers Thomas www.in70mm.com  |  IP: Logged Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 01-16-2005 11:05 PM                        I saw the original release of "How the West Was Won" at the Loews Cinerama in NYC and the sound was spectacular. There was one scene in particular where some characters are standing in front of a window where there are people performing in a bar or music hall behind them and there was actually depth perception in the sound. Even as a kid, it blew me away. Also, West Side Story in its original Todd-AO presentation at the Rivoli. ...the original 70mm releases of Close Encounters and Apocalypse Now at the Ziegfeld. Subsequent releases and cuts of those films haven't sounded as good. When I saw Apocalypse Now, my wife turned to me just before the film started and wondered whether it was worth the hassle of coming into Manhattan to see it. Just then, the lights faded and "The End" by the Doors began playing through the surrounds. She turned to me and said, "it's worth it." Even though it was released first, I saw Star Wars at the Astor Plaza after I saw Close Encounters at the Ziegfeld. I remember being disappointed in comparison. Raiders of the Lost Ark was also a pretty spectacular mix. Most digital mixes don' t do it for me the way those films did. They almost never sound as warm.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-18-2005 05:03 PM                     quote: Martin Brooks West Side Story in its original Todd-AO presentation at the Rivoli. West Side Story was not a Todd-AO film or release. The Rivoli Theatre was a Todd-AO theatre, but it was not billed as being presented in Todd-AO.  |  IP: Logged

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