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Author Topic: Best Sound Mix Ever Harry Robinson Expert Film Handler Posts: 155 From: Franklin Tennessee Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-06-2005 11:51 AM                     I'm going to have to chime in on this one. As an old fart Cinerama fan, I have to include How the West Was Won. It was the movie that turned me on to Alfred Newman and folk music at the same time. Saving Private Ryan also has to go on the list.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 01-06-2005 02:03 PM                    I saw How The West Was Won in Cinerama at the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood last year, and I thought it sounded ...ok. Of course what counts for "ok" by today's standards was probably "awesome" back in the day. I agree on Saving Private Ryan.  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 01-06-2005 07:13 PM                     More from one of the old guys: MAN BELONGS TO THE EARTH (An older Imax film with a musical track by Jazz musician Don Ellis, with percussion instruments playing different beats in each channel. One of the best uses of multi-channel sound ever.) Superman (70mm Mag) Blues Brothers (35mm Mag) 2001 (70mm Mag) Toot Whistle Plunk and Boom (35mm Mag - My Guilty Pleasure) The Matrix (35mm Dolby Digital) Oklahoma (Overture) (70mm Mag) Fantasia 2000 (Imax) (Specifically POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE and FIREBIRD) Nightmare Before Christmas (35mm Dolby Digital) I regret I was not able to see Apocalypse Now in 70mm. I've heard that is about as good as it gets.  |  IP: Logged Ari Nordström Master Film Handler Posts: 283 From: Göteborg, Sweden Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-07-2005 05:37 AM                     "Apocalypse" in 70mm mag split surround was great. I always liked the "Brainstorm" 70mm mag mix. Maybe not the best mix ever but... And I have to agree about "Sound of Music" (70mm) and "2001" (70mm). All of which tell us that either the 70mm mag sound was superior to whatever they can produce today, OR that I'd need to go out more.  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 01-09-2005 09:02 PM                     What comes to mind from what i've seen: Twister (35mm DTS) Dantes Peak (35mm DTS) Lost in Space (35mm DTS) Dark City (35mm Dolby Dig) The Mask of Zorro (35mm Dolby Dig) The Thing (70mm Mag) Toy Story (35mm Dolby Dig) Mars Attacks!(35mm Dolby Dig) Congo (35mm DTS) Jumanj (35mm Dolby Dig) Jurassic Park 2 (35mm DTS) Lethal Weapon 4 (35mm Dolby Dig) Star Trek: Generations (35mm DTS)  |  IP: Logged Paul Howard Film Handler Posts: 26 From: Huyton, Liverpool, UK Registered: May 2003 posted 01-10-2005 06:12 AM                     I think most of you are correct, the newer films tend to be "BY THE BOOK" mixing with nothing outstanding or origional, but The Incredibles, broke the mold Star Trek 6, UDC (first 5.1 film i saw in a theater) True Lies (power and finesse) Jurassic Park (realistic and terrifying) Titanic (astounding) Road to Perdition (subtle and powerful) My favourite no brainer, noisefest was Volcano, ok film but very, crazy wrap around mix (the DVD mix is flat compared to theater mix)  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 01-10-2005 09:51 AM                    If I'm not mistaken, Star Trek 6 was one of the two test films for Dolby Digital, the other being Newsies. And if I'm also not mistaken, those were very VERY limited, and unadvertised engagements as Dolby was testing the format. Where did you see it? Was it advertised in Dolby Digital? Or did you see it in some other format? I'm also curious to know... since these were test prints, were the soundtracks even mixed in 5.1? Or were they just discrete channel transfers of the four channel mixes?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-10-2005 10:16 AM                     Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country had a Dolby Format 43 split surround mix available on its 70mm Dolby Mag prints. A good number of early 1990's 70mm mag prints featured split surround mixes. It is possible that Paul saw the show in 5.1, provided if the theater had the proper Dolby cards and wiring done to support the split surround format on 70mm. In the normal baby boom Format 42 configuration the show would have played in mono surround. Some crossover tricks allow the sub-bass and surround channels for Format 42 and Format 43 to co-exist on the same 70mm print. I don't know which Los Angeles area theater showed "Star Trek VI" in the Dolby Digital test engagement. The El Capitan theater (I think) was the venue used on the test screening of "Newsies." Of other note about "Star Trek" movies and new sound format, "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" was the first movie to show off 70mm Dolby SR mag. Two LA area theater featured it, billed as "70mm Dolby Spectral Sound."  |  IP: Logged Dean Kollet Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 591 From: Florida State University Registered: Jul 2003 posted 01-10-2005 10:34 AM                     I keep going back to Air Force One. I saw it back opening weekend in a theatre in Jacksonville that I think has since closed. It still is probably the best presentation I've ever seen. It was a THX Auditorium, and I think it was back July of '97. I still love listening to the DD in my home.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-10-2005 12:26 PM                     quote: I don't know which Los Angeles area theater showed "Star Trek VI" in Dolby Digital test engagement. It was Pacific's Northridge 6 Theatre. Yes, "Newies" played the Pacific's El Capitian in SRD. "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" played Pacific's Cinerama Dome and Mann's Village.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-10-2005 03:10 PM                     quote: I keep going back to Air Force One. (snippage) I still love listening to the DD in my home. "Air Force One" definitely has an aggressive mix with lots of good jet-by surround effects. The bass is potent on it, even on the music score. I have the Superbit version of it on DVD and opt for the DTS track, even though the DD track is very good.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Jonsson Expert Film Handler Posts: 216 From: Bromolla, Sweden Registered: Sep 2003 posted 01-10-2005 03:11 PM                       I vote for "Mad Mad World". I think it has an excellent sound mix, and received an Oscar for Best Sound Effects in 1963. Thomas  |  IP: Logged Paul Howard Film Handler Posts: 26 From: Huyton, Liverpool, UK Registered: May 2003 posted 01-10-2005 04:15 PM                     To Bobby, the showcase cinema in Liverpool USED to be a fantastic multiplex that is where I saw Star Trek 6 and it was incredible. The force of the opening sequence that shook the floor, the enterprise and the other ship captained by Bones flew discreetley into the surround channels. I was quite young but remember something up outside the auditorium that pointed out Digital sound, which they left up for years after. Looks like I saw a rare showing of it then without knowing, COOL! Take care Paul  |  IP: Logged Christian Volpi Master Film Handler Posts: 349 From: Arlington, NE Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-10-2005 04:38 PM                        The best sound that I ever heard was on Twister and I'll tell you why. We played Twister for about 2 months when it first came out. None of our theaters was outfitted with digital sound when we first got the print. In about it's 7th week we got a Dolby CP65 installed and when I heard it for the first time I thought that it was the most amazing thing that I had ever heard. The highs were incredible. I thought the bass was going to rip my chest out. Now, 8 or so years later, I'm so used to digital sound that it doesn't really impress me as much as it did the first time that I ever heard it.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 01-10-2005 04:44 PM                        The CP65 is an analog processor. Either they told you it was a new digital unit and ripped you off, or you had it before and got a DTS processor as add-on. If I remember correctly in my old age, "Twister" only had DTS, no Dolby Digital.  |  IP: Logged

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