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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Want a bad oil country story... in many many places in Canada (which has enough oil that it doesn't need to import any) you can cross the US border and buy imported (from Canada) gas for 25% less than you can buy the same gas on the Canadian side of the border.

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Scott McGuire
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$3.30 here in upstate ny. At this point i don't think it matters where you are if barrel prices drop back to what they were 6 months ago gallon prices won't drop that far. They will raise it to $4.50 and then bring it back to $3.50 and we will all think it's a great price.

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Jonathan Worthing
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[Frown] [Frown] £1.02 Per litre. Yes that is around 9.00USD per gallon

Our government are [sex] us with duty.

I think we should invade a country to get there oil so we can pay under $4.00 per gallon.

[Roll Eyes] Sorry that will not work.

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John Walsh
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Paid $3.62 yesterday at a highway rest stop (which tend to be more expensive) here in Connecticut.

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Paul Mayer
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Here in Sin City, regular is running between $2.97 and $3.29 USD per gallon. Premium is running between $3.18 and $3.49 USD per gallon.

Been on the 50cc scooter for a year now. Runs me about a buck a day commuting about 30 miles a day to work and school.

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Kurt Zupin
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Just filled up the Explorer and it was $2.97 at the Quick Trip. Over 50 bucks to fill up the beast.

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Monte L Fullmer
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...and I filled up My Suzuki Wgn for $38.00 with the trip odometer hitting close to 400 miles...

It's fun watching people with large, expensive rigs either shove credit cards to fill those things, or can only shove in 5 to 10 bucks of fuel since that's all the money they have and can afford.

Also, you're getting to see a LOT of these large gas-guzzling vehicles in the used car lots in massive quanities, sometimes with huge price reductions, giving the dealers to find a way to move these units out and bring in more inventory-with some of these units being repossessed, lease returns or voluntary repossesion.

Yet, also sad as I was filling my vehicle, was thinking that when gas was $ .309/gal, that a buck would get you three point plus gallons back in 1972. Now, it takes 10 bucks for that same three point plus gallons.

Driving to SLC and back to E. Idaho was a 10 dollar fill..easy pocket change. NOW, the drive from Boise to SLC is now almost a $100.00 bill to blow. Shoot, one now can fly from Boise to SLC cheaper than it is to drive ...

Better watch out, going to be another speed limit reduction again like when the Embargo of 1973 and 1979 hit the USA...and what's good (or bad on how you look at it..) is the Embargo forced the US automakers to find a way to make more fuel efficent cars since they had only a couple at the time (the Ford Pinto and the Chevy Vega..).

NOW, the trend has returned with these danged "road locomotives" called SUVS and huge ego promoting Pickups that sucks the same amount of fuel as those vehicles in 1973 before the Embargo hit.

But, this time, it's gonna be a lot worse since now India and China have developed into massive industrialized countries that require fossil fuels to run their plants.

..and driving scooters is actually quite fun...

-Monte

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Steven J Hart
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$3.45 here. The crazy thing is that the huge escalation in the price of crude has not been fueled by any kind of shortage here in the states, but by commodity speculators who contine to buy future contracts at a seemingly insatiable rate.
Steve

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Steve Guttag
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I highly doubt that you will see speed reductions again based on fuel consumption. It was a flawed idea when it came out and would remain flawed to this day. Market forces are what will/are driving a change in auto purchases and driving habits.

I also don't think it was the gas shortage that got the American Auto manufacturers into more efficient cars in and of its own...but the increase in customer satisfaction with the products made in Japan, which also happened to be much more fuel efficient. In my childhood alone I watched the transition from Japan = Junk to Japan = high quality. In Back to the Future they even make light of it when the 1950s Doc Brown notes that the components are made in Japan and Marty corrects him that "all the best stuff comes from Japan now."

Chrysler, in particular did not adapt to buying trends and continued to produce cars that Americans did not want anymore.

Another thing that happened in the 1970s with the fuel crunch was the emergence of Desiel passenger cars...which ruined the prices on Desiel fuel.

I think it would be very hard indeed to get Americans to accept lower speed limits based on fuel prices/availability. I do think that Hybrids will continue to gain market place and that alternative fuels based vehicles will continue to develop and will eventually replace gasoline based engines. Come on, how efficient is the internal combustion engine? There has got to be a better way. Hydrogen fuel cells look interesting to me.

Steve

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
It's fun watching people with large, expensive rigs either shove credit cards to fill those things, or can only shove in 5 to 10 bucks of fuel since that's all the money they have and can afford.
In the last 9 years I think I've paid cash for gas five times. Credit cards are perfect for paying for gas. It's a fairly regular expense so there's no "surprise" (as in you forgot about it) spending, it's a free month of interest on your money (assuming you're not the type to live on credit), you get to collect whatever reward you get on your credit card purchases (1% cash back, 3% GM dollars, whatever), and it's an excellent way to build and maintain a very good credit rating (assuming, again, that you're not the type to live on credit). IMNSHO, it'd be foolish not to pay for fuel and other *regular* high value expenses with a credit card. Whether paying for your irregular high value expenses with a credit card is a good idea or not is highly dependent on how well you manage money.

quote: Monte L Fullmer
Better watch out, going to be another speed limit reduction again like when the Embargo of 1973 and 1979 hit the USA
That will not happen. Like Steve said, it's flawed logic. Many vehicles get the best mileage around 110-115km/h, which around here is 10-15km/h over the current speed limit on the largest highways.

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Mark J. Marshall
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And just because someone is swiping a card doesn't mean they're paying with credit. I swipe my Visa debit card all the time, hit the "credit" button (so I don't have to type my PIN number - I'm too lazy for that), and pump away.

quote: Jonathan Worthing
I think we should invade a country to get there oil so we can pay under $4.00 per gallon.
Or we could just drill for our own oil off the coast of Florida... like China is about to start doing. Or in Alaska. Or in any number of other places available to us. Or we could start building cars that run on sugar. That could work too.

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Lyle Romer
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quote: Steve Guttag
Hydrogen fuel cells look interesting to me.
Hydrogen fuel cells would be great if we didn't have to produce the hydrogen to run them on. That problem could be alleviated by making a huge push to nuclear power for the power grid and then using excess capacity in off peak times to produce hydrogen from water.

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Jack Theakston
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$2.83 is about the average in my area here in NJ. That's still $1.84 more than I care to be spending per gallon.

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Phil Hill
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Our Grand-Poopie-BAH told me he remembers when regular gasoline was $0.19.9 a gallon.

Of course, that was WAY B4 MY time! HA!

I just filled up at my local Chevron at $2.24 a gallon.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Or, we could try these tricks that Prof. Kipkay lays out for us here.

On the topic of using Acetone, I've tried this stuff in the mix and it does actually work. I gained 2 to 4 mpg in my daily driving.

There are many add-ons that work, somewhat work, and just doesn't work. The one that really gets me is the usage of the E85 concept. Almost everyone knows that alcohol doesn't have the BTU range as does gasoline. Thus, you do the mix and your mileage deceases, yet so does the price at the pump (Phil - did you use E85 to get that low of price per gallon?)

There is this other device that also works real good, but has nothing to do with additives in the fuel, but removes the unburnt hydrocarbons in the recirc.gas that is returned into the carburetor, or intake plenum via the PVC valve.

-Monte

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