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Edward Havens
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 - posted 10-15-2011 04:17 AM      Profile for Edward Havens   Email Edward Havens   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I finally broke down and bought a Blu-Ray player last week. A little Sony unit that was $50 off and synchs up nicely with my Sony HDTV. Then I bought The Social Network, so I'd have something to watch.

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Randy Stankey
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 - posted 10-15-2011 08:11 AM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I bought five rolls of this:
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So that I could use this:
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...which is one of the cameras in the collection I inherited. It's been in storage for more than 20 years but the thing works almost like it was made yesterday. The roller that trips the film counter still works like it's supposed to, even with today's thinner films.

Frame spacing is just fine whereas the Zeiss Ikonta needs to have a piece of gaffer's tape wound around the takeup roll to account for the difference in thickness.

It's funny what difference a couple-few thou can make!

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 10-15-2011 06:28 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Why are there two lenses? Is one for telephoto or something?

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Randy Stankey
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It's called a Twin Lens Reflex camera.
The top lens is the viewing lens used for focusing. You look down through the top of the camera to compose and focus. The bottom lens is the one that actually takes the photograph.

It takes practice to use but, once you get the hang of it, the camera takes really nice photos. 120 format film is 60mm wide so it is basically the 70mm film of still photography.

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Jake Spell
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Just bought an LG HBS-700 bluetooth stereo headset and I LOVE it!! This is the first headset I can listen to music, hear other people around me while I am listening, talk clearly on the phone hands free, not have any wires to get tangled and I can wear it all day without and pain!! This this rocks!!!

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Frank Angel
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Randy, LOVED THAT CAMERA!! Well, not exactly THAT camera -- I had the Japanese version -- the Yashica-MAT.

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Almost identical, but without the Zeiss lens.

Can you find 620 film for it? The 620 roll gives you I think twice the frame count as 120 (perhaps 24? instead of 12 if memory serves me). I can't recall if you needed any modification to the camera, or perhaps you needed a different take up reel, but it wasn't difficult to convert to the 620. The Yashica-MAT produced quite stunning images even without the legendary Ziess lens, but they did add an electronic exposure meter which, although it didn't actually change the iris, it did show you what setting you needed to manually set the iris....very sweet.

The issue with both these cameras was that even the slightest physical abuse could get the two lenses out of perfect alignment so that what you see as in focus the the ground glass viewfinder might not be in perfect focus on the film. I had to take mine to a camera shop to have the two lenses properly aligned. Depth of field is awesome. The odd aspect ratio was a problem unless you expected to project it on an IMAX screen! heh heh. I drew lines on the viewfinder so that I could extract 4:3 ar images in the darkroom....my own little VistaVision system.

Mine got stolen in a house break in.

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Jock Blakley
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Hi Frank,

Please forgive my first post being a correction (and in this thread too!), but the double-length film you're thinking of is 220-format.

120 and 620 are the same length but 620 uses a thinner spool so that the camera's spool bays can be smaller. It's for this reason that you can't use unmodified 120 rolls in cameras designed for 620 (you have to file down the flanges of the spool or get crafty with the camera).

220 rolls are double the length of 120 but still manage to fit on 120 spools. They do this by omitting the backing paper that protects the entirety of a roll of 120 - instead they only apply it to the head and tail of the roll. In the middle of the roll there is no paper, so the thickness is halved and you can get double the film on the spool. You just have to remember to adjust the pressure plate in your camera to the different thickness.

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Randy Stankey
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I have a Yashica-Mat but it is the original model without the meter. You have to use a handheld meter.

The Yashinon lenses are really nice. Almost as nice as the Schneider Xenar in the Rollei. The only difference is that there is a bit of fringing at the edges of the image. I think the Yashinon is a three-element lens whereas the Schneider is a four-element lens. That fourth element collimates the light better. (At least, that's how I understand it.)

The Yashica is the first TLR I ever owned. That's what got me hooked on medium format cameras. Now I have the Zeiss Ikonta and the Rollei. There are a few other MF cameras still in storage that I haven't dusted off and taken out for a spin yet. I'm still having too much fun with the others.

As to the 620 film, I have several cameras that use it. There are several Brownie Hawkeyes and a couple of Kodak Relfex II cameras. Since 620 is hard to come by, it's going to take a while before I get them out. Yes, you can buy 620 from specialty companies but, of course, you pay a premium price.

The enterprising photographer might be inclined to reroll 120 film onto 620 spools but it takes some practice to do it right. You have to roll it twice, once to get to the tail of the leader and once again to roll it head out onto the smaller spool. All this has to be done in the dark. It's a lot of work just to play with an old camera when you've got half a dozen others that are ten times better.

If I ever get a wild hare up my ass I might do it but that's a lot of fussing around just to play with an old Hawkeye or a Jiffy 620.

Right now, I'm having too much fun with the Rolleiflex.

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Frank Angel
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Jock, welcome and hi-five on your first post. No need to apologize -- the distinction you made between the 220 and 620 is right on the money. I haven't had my camera in a long time, so it was a little fuzzy.

Randy, now you've got me going -- am all over ebay looking at Rolleis, although I saw a sweet Yashica that I may pick up just for the nostalgia of it.

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Simon Wyss
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Two Revere 103 16mm movie cameras in order to learn about a product that could have become a severe concurrence to the Paillard-Bolex H 16 had it been designed with a better viewfinder

Spring, governor, speed control, film gate, threading aid, housing, all these points are at least as good as with the H 16. The divergent turret even approaches the Arriflex 16.

You cannot clean the Revere film gate very easily. Shutter opening angle is 144 degrees (optical axis). The Revere cost half the price of the Bolex when it appeared in 1953.

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Frank Angel
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An old professor friend from college is getting hard of hearing and can't walk as well anymore so he can't hear his telephone when he is not right there with it in his living room and even if he does hear it, it takes him too long to get to it. A mutual college friend and I are going to visit him next month and I want to put a second phone in his kitchen so he can hear the ring and not have to try to get to the living room in time. But it's an old house and with no basement and a rental so we can't easily wire across two rooms, a pantry and a hallway to install. So I bought THIS:

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Problem solved. AND, while looking for this thing, I read some very intersting stuff about the HomePug spec for PLC (Power Line Communication) where there are all kinds of black boxes coming on the market that use this HomePlug Certified technology. Most interesting to me is using it for getting Ethernet from one room to the others all over the house. The advantage over WiFi is the security of a closed system and high reliability not to mention the ability to send 200mbps and of course ease of setup. The HomePlug Alliance has something like 60 manufactures using the IEEE 1901 standard to allow consumers to transmit and receive pretty much everything that can be sent over a wire from HDMI to Ethernet to control signals. X10 has been doing it since 1970 but now the standards are pretty much set for widespread applications. They are the same people who worked on the Wi-Fi standards.

Plug this thing in next to your computer and you've got Ethernet at every socket in your house:

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Joe Redifer
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That's really cool. Do you have a link for those ethernet thingies? How do they work? Do they inhibit the signal at all compared to running 100 feet of ethernet cable? Why does my browser want me to capitalize ethernet? What is the capital of Istanbul and does it have an actual capitol?

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Frank Angel
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Sorry Joe, I should have posted a few links. Here ya go:

a Belkin set
and this one from TigerDirect
then the ChannelMaster units CM Ethernet over PLC and
if you want a 4 port switch on the receiver end for more flexibility, there is this baby
CM Ethernet over PCL w/ 4 port switch

I am getting the Channel Master; it will solve a few looming problems if it does what they claim. Wiring that I ran out windows and in other windows to get from room to room is deteriorating after 20 years, so this HomePlug AV PLC stuff would make for a a very easy replacement. It will be interesting to do some speed tests at various places throughout the apartment -- see if the technology holds up. Although, if they are claiming 200Mbps -- I assume that is the best-case scenario -- then even if at the other end of the run (about 130 ft one end to the other) I can get at least 2/3rds that, then I will be wildly happy.

Your browser and all Office spell checks seem to think there was some guy named Melvin Ethernet and so it upcases the E. He probably lived in Istanbul.

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Brad Miller
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quote: Frank Angel
The advantage over WiFi is the security of a closed system and high reliability not to mention the ability to send 200mbps and of course ease of setup.
200mbps sucks Joe. You will just end up murdering the manufacturer. Run a wire for 1000mbps.

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Joe Redifer
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Seems kind of expensive if it only includes two modules. Would it work if I hooked it up to a power strip or surge protector? I need all of my outlets and would have to attach this on an auxiliary outlet. Actually I need at least 1002mbps. 1000mpbs is for losers and homeless people.

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