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Tom Petrov
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quote: Chris Slycord
I still chuckle remembering that refused to carry an album by Nirvana
Did they have ratings on albums at that time? Do they have them now?

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Chris Slycord
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There's no such thing as music ratings here, other than a parental advisory that it contains explicit content. And I have no idea whether the album (In Utero) or the single that Rape Me was on were labeled as such.

But I do know that Walmart and Kmart refused to sell the album because they felt customers would be offended by the cover and the song titled "Rape Me." So all they did was change the packaging, change the title on the packaging alone, and the chains went along wit it.

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Tom Petrov
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quote: Chris Slycord
they felt customers would be offended by the cover and the song titled "Rape Me."
Fair enough

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Jake Spell
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It makes sense that in a store filled with families and small children that album/DVD/ and video games would be censored for content.

As far as the need for a record store goes...
Iv never set foot in one, dont really know why. Guess I just never herd anything that I liked long enough to go buy the CD. I now usually listen to Pandora radio. It has tons of variety, no commercials, and I listen to what I want for $3 a month.

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Tom Petrov
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quote: Jake Spell
I now usually listen to Pandora radio.
Pandora is a pretty good idea. I listen to Tunein Radio on my cell all the time. Sometimes in the car on AUX plug as well. I used to burn CDs for the car, now its just iTunes podcasting or Tunein radio.

It works well!

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Frank Angel
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Pandora started off as a very cool idea, but like all things that have the potential to make money, GREED has started to permeate the operation. In the beginning their "commercials" were like every 10 or so songs and they were very short, 15 second spots with just an announcer. Now they are up to 1 per 3 songs -- more than some OTA radio stations -- and they are full commercials with obnoxious jingles and "comedic scenarios" which are as unfunny as they are stupid.

Worse, now they have gotten really Nazi about you turning off a song. They used to let you nix a dozen or so songs before they would force you to play the songs thru; now it's something like "YOU VILL LISTEN TO ZE SONG!" After 5 songs, they block the ability to stop the play and go to the next selection. So when their "smart" AI picks a song that I really dislike, I am forced to play it thru, or mute it. I used to be able to get around that by just clicking out of the site and then clicking back in, but now they have gone fascist about that too -- if you come back on, they play the same song from where it stopped. Look, if I tell them I HATE this dumb song their unintelligent artificial intelligence picked, why do they insist I HAVE to listen to it in order to move on to the next song? Do they think maybe I will change my mind by forcing me to play it thru....that somehow in a station that I've created for 60s and 70s classics, I somehow will want to hear jazz or Hip effin Hop?

And not for nuthin, but they REALLY need to go back to the drawing board with their AI software. I have clicked on that I don't like some genre of songs but they pop up over and over, no matter how many times I nix them. And in the middle of the summer they were poping up Christmas music -- and worse, Christmas music that wasn't even traditional and which I couldn't have listened to on Christmas Day!

Then up pops four songs in a row that were totally out of the styles I have been teaching it that I liked for about a year now and they pick another Hip Hop. And so happened it was past my grace period and I couldn't nix it. That's when I realized this was rubbing me the wrong way in too many directions all at once. Haven't turned it on since; I'm done with them. Oh yah, and not to mention now they want you to buy their PREMIUM crap. I guess the idea was, keep making it more and more annoying so that they will just give up and hand over the 9 bucks. Not this lad.

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Joe Redifer
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I don't understand why Pandora prohibits the skipping of songs. That's just stupid. For that reason alone I never, ever use Pandora.

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Edward Havens
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If I were a Nickelback fan... and thank every deity out there I am not... I would gladly spend $6 more to buy it at a locally owned and operated record store if it meant not supporting a place like Walmart. It's more important to me to save someone's livelihood than it is to save a couple dollars.

Anyway, only an idiot would buy a CD at full price from CD Warehouse.

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Mike Blakesley
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I totally agree with Edward. Too bad there aren't about 50 million more like you out there.

It's also very possible that the Wal Mart version is less-nicely packaged. I've seen that a few times.

What's goofy about Wal Mart is they won't sell CDs that are "parental advisory" stickered, but they have no problem with R-rated movies which are probably far more "dangerous" to the kids than the occasional f-bomb on a barely-intelligible rap CD.

I don't use Pandora and after reading the few comments about it above, I don't think I ever will.

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Monte L Fullmer
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try www.sky.fm .. and www.last.fm

..plus tonnage of streaming audio stations through shoutcast.

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Tom Petrov
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quote: Monte L Fullmer
plus tonnage of streaming audio stations through shoutcast.


I stream TuneIN radio in my car via my unlimited data on my blackberry. Works wonders and I can listen to any station in the world while I am driving.

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Bruce Hansen
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Compression SUCKS!

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Tom Petrov
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quote:
Compression SUCKS!
Changing, burning, inserting, taking out CDs sucks even more.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Tom Petrov
I can listen to any station in the world while I am driving.
I've got ten bucks here that says I can name a station you can't listen to.

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Tom Petrov
Changing, burning, inserting, taking out CDs sucks even more.
Mmmm... no I'm going to go with compression as the greater evil in that scenario. Also, why would you need to burn a disc that you bought at a store?

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