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Author Topic: In an iTunes age, do we need the record store? Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-05-2011 01:10 AM                        That's detailed enough. But it would have been better if each album was under a different Jefferson vehicle unless Jefferson died or something. None of the names they ever chose were any good.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-05-2011 01:12 AM                        Yeah, they could have had the Jefferson Twin Prop, the Jefferson 747 and the Jefferson Concorde (among others) in between the Airplane and the Starship.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-05-2011 01:28 AM                        I really liked We Built This City and so did most of my friends, many of whom were hard rockers. I programmed it into at least three or four of our "Preshow Stereo Rock Concert" intermission tapes. Like Victor, I thought the melody was particularly catchy and the instrumentation pretty robust with two unique hooks to keep you listening. I can name a dozen songs from that era that were REAL dogs. So how did it garner the "worse song" moniker and who has the authority (and audacity) to make such a subjective claim? The cut got plenty of airplay and although I don't have the Billboard charts in front of me, I can't imagine that it didn't get up into the single digits and hold for quite a few weeks. Then again, around that time it was also cool to bash ABBA who wound up being bigger world-wide than the Beatles. And Mike is right - the name variants were all about freakin trademark or copyright issues and they had to keep ahead of the damn lawyers. But it was all the same band.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 12-05-2011 09:50 AM                     With that list of songs... I like Heart of Rock and Roll...  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 12-05-2011 11:06 AM                     We Built This City isn't even the worst Starship hit song, let alone the worst song of all time. Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now is far worse.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-05-2011 02:48 PM                        Of course that poll was one of those 'not scientific' things that mean nothing except for novelty value. I agree "City" isn't the worst song of all time. Given some of the great material Airplane/Starship produced, it's not exactly their best achievement ever, but it WAS probably their biggest hit record. It's just that it was SO overplayed at the time. Radio stations were served copies without the narration in the middle, so they could overdub their own DJs -- which resulted in it getting even more airplay than it might have otherwise. In short, everybody got sick of it.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-05-2011 03:39 PM                     I thought one of the funniest scenes in The Cable Guy was when Jim Carrey sang a karaoke tune of "Somebody to Love." He mocked Grace Slick's vocal style, featuring a vibrato similar to a sheep baaing.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 12-05-2011 10:09 PM                        On that same note (no pun intended) the scene in DOGMA at the very end where God appears, and it's Alanis Morissette parodying herself -- I was bowled over by that gag. She is noted for her obnoxiously screechy vocal style which I found so annoying that I would dive for the station button anytime one of her whiney, screachy, male-bashing songs would come on. At the end of the film she does this ear splitting, prolonged screeeeeeeach. Very funny, and pretty big of her to make fun of her own voice. BTW, I disliked her voice so much that I nicknamed her Alanis Marmiset.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-06-2011 04:30 AM                        That movie won't age well. Barely anyone even remembers who that person even is. Hell, I barely even knew when she was relevant.  |  IP: Logged Damien Taylor Master Film Handler Posts: 493 From: Perth, Western Australia Registered: Apr 2007 posted 12-06-2011 04:55 AM                     lol wut, she had a massive selling album and dated Uncle Joey all in the same decade. She's got another 3-6 months of pop culture relevance left in her yet.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-06-2011 11:44 AM                        Yep, the days when a musical artist's new work would sell just on name alone are long gone. I remember Alanis Morisette's first CD coming out of left field and selling a ton; when the next one came out we barely sold any of it. The kidz had moved on. Of course the fact that it was several years between CDs for her didn't help. In the glory days of acts like the Beatles, they would release a new album every few months. Into the 70s, for a major act to go more than a year between records was unusual.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-06-2011 12:35 PM                     Another thing which hurt "Lilith Fair" style performers like Alanis Morissette: the arrival of teen sex objects acts like Britney Spears. Once that wave of pop music arrived it help cause the popularity level of certain smart girl/feminist singers like Sarah McLachlan, Tori Amos and P.J. Harvey to decline.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 12-06-2011 12:41 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer Wow, and people thought driving and texting is dangerous. I guess it's OK to drive and browse/purchase in iTunes. That's not dangerous or inconsiderate of other people's lives at all. I purchased it when I sat in my car after the movie before even driving away. It's funny, because legally I could buy it while driving, as Indiana's law only bans texting and emailing while driving. I could theoretically web surf legally too, but I don't. With all this talk about Starship, what about Cobra Starship? AJG  |  IP: Logged Jonathan M. Crist Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 531 From: Hershey, PA, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 12-06-2011 02:43 PM                     CDS =RIP 2012? 2012: The End of Music Compact Discs (From the Website: Digital Film Tree) Are you ready for a format refresh? Well, ready or not, new reports have surfaced that the music compact discs will be a thing of the past, come 2012. It’s been a foregone conclusion for some time that all optical media is going to fade away within the next few years. Formats such as CD, DVD and Blu Ray have taken a beating from online download and cloud-based initiatives. Now, it is the turn of music CD to die. The reports say that major labels will do away with music CDs come the end of 2012. And that any music CDs published after that point would be special editions, sold through outlets such as Amazon.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 12-06-2011 03:51 PM                     ^^^ AFAIK, CDS died in the early 1990's.  |  IP: Logged

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