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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 12-09-2004 01:11 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Okey - I need some help on this one: I've got a 1050, that when I change the oil, which is almost clear,that in a couple of weeks the oil is a very dark caramel color. Have I got a bearing heading south? For I've taken the back off, unbolted the INT assembly drive gear to let the vertical shaft spin freely, and absolutely no drag what so ever even with this gear being released. Shutter spins freely, no noise...just if anyone out there have ever had this problem before. -thx Monte

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 12-09-2004 08:03 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does the oil smell burnt or is it just dirty? Sometimes it can take several oil changes over a few weeks time to clean out any gunk thats in the sump. More likely something has turned rusty or the sump is just really dirty.... to check the sump just pull the oil pump out and check the sump for sludge buildup. If that doesn't help then a complete teardown might be in order.... somewhat like exploratory surgery.

Mark @ CLACO

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 12-09-2004 01:35 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Nope, just dirty. And, I've even cleaned out the sump area as best, short of taking the pump out. Prob have to do that what you recommend-more frequent changes to "wash" the gunk out, and if that doesn't do, it could be surgery. Yet, I really don't want to, for that machine is one of my smoothest running. Thx for the help, Marko. - Monte

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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If its running smooth its probably not a bearing. I would change the oil once a day before the forst show is run over the next three days in a row and see if that helps... this type of quick sucessive oil change will get rid of what ever the dirt is very quickly. If it still keeps getting dirty then a tear down is in order before the excessive dirt wears the mechanism out.

Mark @ CLACO

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Phil Blake
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 - posted 12-10-2004 10:10 AM      Profile for Phil Blake   Author's Homepage   Email Phil Blake   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The BTH lamphouse looks like it was more common than I thought in Australia during the carbon years.
I never came across many in WA but it looks like there were a few about in OZ.
They were a very reliable lamphouse but did not produce a light as good as the ashcraft.

For those who are not familiar with the BTH ....
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Joshua Waaland
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 - posted 12-10-2004 10:42 AM      Profile for Joshua Waaland   Email Joshua Waaland   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am a Simplex XL man for life! They may leak oil but I have never had one break down as opposed to the Century's. I like the Century's too but I lost count haw many intermittents we changed in those things. Also the gears needed changed once or twice too.

Mark,

I love those Norelco's you guys have at Claco. I have never gotten to see one in person but have seen many pictures and read quite a bit on them. I am sure I would love them. Just can't afford the $10,000 price tag attached to them. I love any kind of machinery that is totally overbuilt like that (I got a Brenkert BX-60 from a guy for that reason).

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote:
I am a Simplex XL man for life!
Well, I went through what you are going through a long time ago. I had just about every projector made in my home screening room at one time or another as Steve K will attest to. I won't make any comments about the X-L as thats a whole other thread and I could write a book about it.

My present favorite projector is not the DP-70 but is the Phillips FP-56. This projector would be very hard to beat in any aspect and reportedly the only others that can equal or beat it are certain models of older Bauers. The important thing is that you appreciate the machinery [thumbsup] .

BTW: DP-70's don't have to cost 10K unless you want one completely redone... you can still aquire them just as you did your X-L for the same price.... or less in some cases.
I will leave you with a picture of the FP-56 to drool over [Wink] .

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 12-10-2004 09:32 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark the ernaman 8b is a better machine than the phillips

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Probably more of an equal than better as I mentioned above..... Having had both machines apart I can say that the build quality of both are very close to each other with the scale tipping in favor of the Phillips which has a much better designed and built movement and gear train. The Phillips is easier to service and also has the advantage of handling up to 4" diameter lenses while the Ernamann can't.

Actually I like both but the Phillips is a more practical machine even for use today.

Mark

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Monte L Fullmer
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Philips-pretty good looking machine..looks like an oversized 17 jewel pocketwatch-for you know this thing will run smooth. Them Europeans know how to build them, and they stay in business!

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Dan Lyons
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 - posted 12-11-2004 05:06 AM      Profile for Dan Lyons   Email Dan Lyons   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark,

Do you have a manual for that? I'd love to see more info on that creature.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Yes I do. Its such a simple machine that the manual is more like a pamphlet than a manual. It covers operation, maintenance, and parts in about ten pages. I'll see what I can do to get it converted to Adobe for Brad to post in the manuals section.

Mark

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Matthew Jaro
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 - posted 12-11-2004 10:36 AM      Profile for Matthew Jaro   Author's Homepage   Email Matthew Jaro   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mark --- I notice that the FP-56 has a straight film trap. I like the XLs because the curved gate keeps older films in focus.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Matt,
Most of the older European machines have straight gates. They are generally good to about a 3kw xenon and more with proper heat filters. The 56 has water cooling that is better than even the Century.... which is pretty hard to beat. So the combo of heat filter, water cooling would get you to 4KW without too much trouble. The X-L water cooling is pathetic at best and really only cools tha aperature plate proper while the rest of the head bakes in the extreme heat and literally warps. The best water cooling again lies in Phillips design for the DP-70 with its copper cooling line thats silver soldered to the silver plated copper cooling plate which makes up the entire gate. The runner on the DP-70 is in a fixed position. DP-70's typically run at room temperature provided a proper water circulator is fitted to them and the FP-56 cooling is not far behind as the heat exchanger is located and is well in contact with the main casting itself.
Oh... did I forget to mention that the Phillips FP-56 has a form of Cinefocus built in to eliminate focus flutter and to further help cool the film?????? The upper lens mount rod is the inlet tube for that..... Oh well.... is a curved gate really necessary with this machine? I can't answer that for sure...... but it may not be.

Mark

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Ian Joseph Parfrey
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Mark,
Your beloved FP-56 aint a million miles from the Bauer B11!
Even down to the fibre gate runners.
The major difference would be the B11 had a swing away lens mount as opposed to the Phillips.
Hmmm, nice [thumbsup]

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