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Author Topic: Hey you, you suck! (AKA: Outing bad film handlers) Part 2 Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 08-25-2009 06:21 PM                     Somebody needs to wake up these clowns with a simple question: When you buy a DVD/BR movie, you expect excellence all the way through-from front to back. Don't you think that the movie going public deserves the same excellence? What's the problem here? -Monte  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-25-2009 07:16 PM                     Lazyfukkeritis.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-25-2009 07:54 PM                        Monopoly-itis.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-25-2009 11:17 PM                        Well it sounds like their operation in Alabama is the same as it is in Montana. Stand by for Bobby H. to come in now and say how good it is in Oklahoma. Bobby?  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 09-10-2009 08:39 PM                        To the theatre which previewed Sorority Row - print 73 Cut the leader for Reel 1 about 12" before the start of the attached preview - but it was out of frame. I'm left to assume it was run out of frame. All reels had shoe polish on the splices. At least the heads were all secured nicely and the leaders spliced to the reel.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Jorgenson Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1002 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: Feb 2005 posted 10-25-2009 01:41 AM                        Ok, so I'm not sure if this is a "you suck" or a "well, thanks for at least doing smething" thing. Our print of Motherhood showed up with one of the cans duct taped shut. The latch was completely broken off. If it got sent out that way, then "hey, you suck!" if it was already sent out & somebody noticed that it had been broken open, then "thanks!" The whole print was there - I didn't screen it, but the person that did didn't say anything bad about the quality. Anyway, I snapped a pic.  |  IP: Logged Phil Ranucci Expert Film Handler Posts: 236 From: Carpinteria,CA, United States Registered: May 2006 posted 10-25-2009 03:16 AM                     I love the ty-rap on the other can.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-25-2009 07:38 AM                     TES Wilmington, OH (which serves most of the country) puts a cable tie around the latch of all cans they send out. As far as I know, it is not intended to hold the can shut, it's more like a trivial security seal. Obviously anyone could replace the cable tie if they break open the print, but they could also do the same with any of those "security seals" anyhow. Perhaps TES Ontario, CA (which probably serves you) doesn't do this. I have no objection to it. It probably does make the latch a little more robust though, since it can rattle less. Jeremy: that reminds me of when two cans get duct-taped together before being shipped, sometimes when they are being NFO'd (next flight outed) on a service like Delta Dash...Hey, if it works... --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Jarret Chessell Master Film Handler Posts: 288 From: London, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jan 2009 posted 10-25-2009 08:46 AM                     Every film can I receive with a new print has a zip tie on it. The duct tape is lame if the can was broken before leaving the depot... a little more understanding if it was theater to theater. I usually put a new zip tie on the film can if I'm sending it out using a delivery service theater to theater. I figure it makes it just a bit harder for someone to pull it open and steal a reel at the bus station.  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 10-25-2009 11:37 AM                     shoe polish???  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 10-25-2009 12:47 PM                        The reason for those zip ties are confusing. When that schtick started, they were using serialized ties. One could speculate it was some kind of security measure to keep those awful airport baggage handlers from pirating the content. If the zip-ties are a cost-cutting measure, aimed at the same result, then it's comical to the absurd. If, however, they're just adding the ties as an extra measure to keep the latches closed, then it's just semi-comical... most of those ties are thin enough & put on such that you can open the latches around them. The duct tape entirely makes sense. Some helpful and concerned projectionist, driver or baggage handler knew the risk of a reel falling out and replaced the function of that lost latch in an entirely reasonable and appropriate way. One can only hope there were at least 4 or 5 wraps around the can!  |  IP: Logged Karl Borowski Expert Film Handler Posts: 161 From: Sulking in GameFAQ Forum Registered: Sep 2009 posted 10-25-2009 01:13 PM                     While I don't personally use shoe polish, I know projectionists who still do. If it is applied properly (i.e. not so much as to make winds of the film stick to one another on the 6K reel or on the platter) it really isn't a problem. If it's overdone, yeah, big PITA. One of the projectionists I know who uses the shoe-polish approach admits to having applied too much shoe polish, once, and then never had that problem again.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 10-25-2009 01:18 PM                        quote: Jack Ondracek those awful airport baggage handlers P-{ Smile when you say that! Argh!  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-25-2009 05:24 PM                     I can remove the "Ty-Wrap"(r) (Panduit trademark..) by using a jeweler's screwdriver under the tab to release the strap, then save them on future usages. Ya, seen the ducttape trick to bundle two cans together to make it into one package on air shipments, esp with commercial flights. Course, we know that both DFS and TECH uses zip ties to secure their "Pelican" cases that holds the HD and acc's. for both sending and return..  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-25-2009 10:34 PM                     Anyone using shoe polish is incompetent and damages the film/projectors. That crap ALWAYS flakes off...there is zero reason for it. Steve  |  IP: Logged

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